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Saperlipopette! 
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 Topic: The Prog Archives Starter KitPosted: March 15 2023 at 01:12 |
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I know I'm far from the first who's thought of this in one way or another. But the suggestions will differ every time, and I think it's a fun and interesting challenge. Let's say someone quite young and unexperienced in the ways of progressive music ended up on PA while googling this one track or album that they've just stumbled over on youtube or something like that. She or he posts this challenge in the Welcome newbies!-section:
Hi everyone! I found this place while looking for more info on............ after just having heard their amazing track (or song) ............! I've never ever heard of Prog or Progressive Rock until today. And with 12,183 bands & artists, 70,966 albums and over twenty sub-genres it's all a little overwhelming. So how about you "experts" suggest a dozen albums for me that you think will give this total noob the perfect introduction to this Prog Rock-thing? It's even better if you care to explain why, but I'll try giving each and every suggestion a shot regardless. *I'll come back with my own list of suggestions soon, but it's not ready yet. **If you need to fill in a spesific band and/or track to get going, just let us know what you've chosen as your reference, starting point. |
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richardh
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 02:50 |
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King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King
ELP - Tarkus Yes - Fragile Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon Camel - Mirage PFM - Per Un Amico Rush - 2112 Marillion - Misplaced Childhood Dream Theater - Images and Words Anglagard - Hybris Big Big Train - English Electric Part One Porcupine Tree - In Absentia not over thinking this and also this doesn't include many sub genres of prog such as Krautrock, Rio, Avant etc (and no Genesis!) |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 04:38 |
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Barclay James Harvest - Live 1974 Camel - Moonmadness ELP - Works Volume I Genesis - Selling England by the Pound Jethro Tull - Living in the Past King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Procol Harum - Procol Harum Renaissance - Ashes Are Burning YES - Going for the One
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 04:59 |
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To me it really depends who's asking, but I don't mind if people post a list they think could work for just about anyone.
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 04:59 |
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ELP - Trilogy King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black Yes - Close to the Edge Genesis - Foxtrot Pink Floyd - Dark side of the moon Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick Spock's Beard - Beware of Darkness Änglagård - Viljans Öga Queen - Night at the Opera Gryphon - Red Queen to Gryphon Three Steve Hackett - Voyage of the Acolyte Focus - Moving Waves
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 05:27 |
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Yes - CTTE
King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic Jethro Tull - Aqualung Genesis - SEBTP ELP - BSS Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon Dream Theater - Images and Words Porcupine Tree - In Absentia PFM - Per Un Amico Tangerine Dream - Phaedra Caravan - In The Land Of Grey & Pink Miriodor - Avanti! Tried to cover of 6 essential Big 6 classics then add some diversity across more modern metal, heavy, Italian, electronic, Canterbury & possibly the easiest entry level avant I could think of.
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David_D
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 05:48 |
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Quite a lot of work if to take it seriously, but indeed interesting and a good challenge - I'll think about it.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 05:53 |
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A very good alternative I see here is Univers Zero's Clivages.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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David_D
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 05:56 |
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I find this approach very good.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Cristi
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 06:16 |
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even exploring the TOP PROG ALBUMS (100 chart) is a good start.
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 06:34 |
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Excellent thread! Here are my dozen of the day. I tried to chose from different decades and balance my list with some modern prog. I added seven others for good measure.
 Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U. Kansas - Leftoverture Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-Existent Places Frank Zappa - One Size Fits All Bubblemath - Edit Peptide Rush - 2112 Pat Metheny Group - The Way Up Wippy Bonstack - 22 National Health - Of Queues and Cures Frost* - Milliontown Gentle Giant - Free Hand Dream Theater - Images and Words Others... Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick The Aristocrats - Culture Clash Steely Dan - Aja Panzerballett - Planet Z Porcupine Tree - In Absentia Spock's Beard - V Animals As Leaders - s/t |
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 06:36 |
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It's where I started when I first came here. If you stick to one album per band that way you get Yes - CTTE Genesis - SEBTP Pink Floyd - WYWH King Crimson - ITCOTCK Jethro Tull - TAAB VDGG - Godbluff Camel - Mirage PFM - Per Un Amico Rush - Moving Pictures Banco - Darwin Anglagard - Hybris Frank Zappa - Hot Rats Maybe not diverse enough but a pretty good starting point. The 2nd 12 gets you a lot more diversity (I'll skip Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue) Gentle Giant - In A Glass House Harmonium - Si on avait besoin d'une cinquième saison Wobbler - From Silence To Somewhere Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire Renaissance - Scheherazade and Other Stories Caravan - In The Land Of Grey and Pink Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2 Scenes from a Memory Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra Supertramp - Crime Of The Century Steve Wilson - The Raven Who Refused To Sing Mike Oldfield - Ommandawn Opeth - Still Life Still missing Krautrock, Electronic, Post/Math Rock but pretty good stareter
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 06:39 |
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Great list but no idea how you can do an introduction to a noob without Yes or Genesis. They are the only 2 of the Big 6 who are never debated.
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 06:48 |
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The same approach for me too. I made sure to include an album by each of the recognised "Big Six" of British Prog, although not necessarily my favourite album by each artist. Obviously, I would've chosen The Quest as my favourite YES album, although I realise it's not everyone's favourite (or even anyone's favourite) YES album and is not representative of their work as a whole. In retrospect, maybe 90125 would've been a better choice of album for a PA Starter Kit than Going for the One, as the 90125 album was my introduction to YES.
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Have to say Paul that your definition of diversity and mine must be quite different if you think adding BJH, Camel, The Moody Blues, Procol Harum & Renaissance to the Big 6 covers the broad church of prog.  |
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Psychedelic Paul
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 07:18 |
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I wasn't aiming to be diverse by covering a broad church of prog. I was simply choosing the twelve most accessible albums that would most likely appeal to a prog neophyte, and not entirely by coincidence, they were pretty much the same twelve "Starter Kit" prog albums that most appealed to me when I was first introduced to the wonderful world of prog.
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 07:26 |
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one of the best lists on MS, it goes beyond a starter kit
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Posted: March 15 2023 at 07:37 |
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-More importantly I've enjoyed looking at all your suggestions.
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For a true newbie:
1. Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (my intro, Dancing with the Moonlit Night is such a good way to begin your journey) 2. Yes - Fragile (the intro and immensity of CTTE make it not my first choice but should come soon after one's ear gets accustomed to prog) 3. Rush - Moving Pictures 4. Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (Welcome to the Machine, the huge Shine On suite, more proggy than Dark Side which everyone has heard anyway) 5. Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime (IMO the most important seed of Prog Metal) 6. Dream Theater - Images and Words (I prefer awake but this is the definitive true start of Prog Metal as a genre) 7. Opeth - Ghost Reveries (Ghost of Perdition is IMO their peak achievement) 8. Khan - Space Shanty (accessible enough to be the perfect entry point to Canterbury) 9. Ash Ra Tempel - Ash Ra Tempel (simultaneously the best psych jam album and a great entry to Krautrock) 10. Devin Townsend - Ocean Machine (I could pick several but this one is best top to bottom) 11. Animals as Leaders - Joy of Motion (The best album by the Prototype for an entire genre) 12. Return to Forever - Romantic Warrior (not my favorite or best fusion album but I think the best entry point) I know this is metal heavy but that's me, and I know it misses a lot of great artists that could have been on the list. But would get a newbie well started IMO. e.g. I don't think King Crimson is a great entry point in spite of their historic importance but would be a must as one moves deeper.
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I know this would have worked perfectly for a mini-me:). Heavy on the oldies, I know. But the 1970’s is a great place to start imo. All albums are in PA’s top 105.
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Genesis - Nursery Cryme Yes - Close to the Edge Pink Floyd - Meddle Jethro Tull - Aqualung Van Der Graaf Generator - H to He Who Am the Only One Gong - You PFM - Storia Di Un Minuto Frank Zappa - Hot Rats Tangerine Dream - Rubycon Tool - Lateralus Opeth - Blackwater Park |
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