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    Posted: October 24 2023 at 04:49

I guess, not so few people would say that in the '80s, there was not much else proper Progressive Rock than Neo-Prog 
- if to define Prog strictly and not include Prog Metal.
That's certainly not my opinion, as there WAS much else, as for instance these favourite albums of mine:

 Agnus  (ARG)  -  Pinturas Y Expresiones   (1980) 

Asia Minor  (TRK/F)  -  Between Flash And Divine   (1980)   

Bacamarte  (BRA)  -  Depois Do Fim   (1983)

Bi Kyo Ran  (J)  -  Bi Kyo Ran   (1982)

Djam Karet  (USA)  -  Reflections From The Firepool   (1989) 

 Eskaton  (F)  -  4 Visions   (1979, 1981)

Halloween  (F)  -  Part One  (1988)

Iconoclasta  (Mex)   -  Reminiscencias   (1985)

Los Jaivas (Chile)  -  Alturas de Machu Pichu   (1981) 

P.L.J. Band  (Gre)  -  Armageddon   (1982)

Solaris  (HUN)  -  Marsbeli Kronikak   (1984)


What is your opinion and other good albums to mention (if not including Neo-Prog and Prog Metal)?



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A few favourite non-Neo Prog albums from 1980 (when Neo Prog didn't yet exist as a separate genre).

5 stars 1980: Anyone's Daughter - Anyone's Daughter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpqwIpgpT8&t=1993s
5 stars 1980: Asia Minor - Between Flesh and Divine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJCsu-Kk8kA&t=766s
5 stars 1980: The Enid - Six Pieces - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMQfw_0L0s
4 stars 1980: Alan Parsons Project - The Turn of a Friendly Card - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luk8Un5tUuHQNopMkANNRkI
4 stars 1980: Anthony Phillips - Private Parts & Pieces II: Back to the Pavilion - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdktF-lL0yEbQmfGJJyTMJqjNgFJ1IwWx
4 stars 1980: Tangerine Dream - Tangram - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpAJUZeIAY


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Very nice, Paul, even it would also be good to see some albums from later years. Tongue
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Very nice, Paul, even it would also be good to see some albums from later years. Tongue
The year 1980 was just for starters. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The year 1980 was just for starters. Wink

So I maybe better say now, take it easy. LOL



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1981: a momentous year for Neo Prog when the very first album Arrived Alive from Scottish band Pallas.

4 stars 1981: Blue Oyster Cult - Fire of Unknown Origin - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lii5mtMgsCePLhUmVDeW98VsSBfQbLOv8
4 stars 1981: Flame Dream - Out in the Dark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52-YiwokMO0
4 stars 1981: Jon & Vangelis - The Friends of Mr. Cairo - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtJ1t-8bDOqVC7b9G1wDNFQ
4 stars 1981: Saga - Worlds Apart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e278xjmXW4M
4 stars 1981: Klaus Schulze - Trancefer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiSJBrafKBw&t=1701s
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Rush - Moving Pictures
The Dregs - Unsung Heroes
Allan Holdsworth - I.O.U.
Pat Metheny Group - Offramp
Chick Corea Elektric Band - Light Years
Zappa - You Are What You Is
King Crimson - Discipline
Genesis - Duke
Adrian Belew - Lone Rhino
King's X - Gretchen Goes to Nebraska



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Here's some stuff:

1980:
Chac Mool - Nadie en especial
Peter Gabriel - Melt
Genesis - Duke
Noa - Noa
Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo tutti i suoi problemi
Present - Triskaďdékaphobie
Rush - Permanent Waves
Mark Shreeve - Embryo
Trilogy - Here It Is
Yes - Drama

1981:
Art Bears - The World as It Is Today
East - Játékok
ELO - Time
Genesis - Abacab
King Crimson - Discipline
Lethe - Lethe
Rush - Moving Pictures
This Heat - Deceit

1982:
Anyone's Daughter - In Blau
Bi Kyo Ran - Bi Kyo Ran
East - Hűség
Eloy - Time to Turn
Peter Gabriel - Security
Rush - Signals
The Work - Slow Crimes
Zarathustra - Also spielt

1983:
Bacamarte - Depois do Fim
Iconoclasta - Iconoclasta
Planet P Project - Planet P Project
Waniyetula - A Dream Within a Dream

1984:
East - Az áldozat (Szodoma)
Het - Let's Het
King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair
News From Babel - Work Resumed on the Tower
Rush - Grace Under Pressure
Solaris - Marsbéli krónikák
Scott Walker - Climate of Hunter
Zaragon - No Return

1985:
Differences - The Voyage
Iconoclasta - Reminiscencias
Present - Le poison qui rend fou
Rush - Power Windows
Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound

1986:
Emerson Lake & Powell - Emerson Lake & Powell
News From Babel - Letters Home

1987:
Mr. Sirius - Barren Dream
Outer Limits - The Scene of Pale Blue

1988: 
Deja-Vu - Baroque in the Future
Vangelis - Direct

1989:
Ozric Tentacles - Pungent Effulgent
Social Tension - Macbethia
Thinking Plague - In This Life
The Work - Rubber Cage
Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon (recorded in 1976 but not released until 1989)
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1982: another significant year for nascent Neo Prog which saw the release of the first two studio albums and they were both by the same band: Twelfth Night! 


A few favourite non-Neo Prog albums from 1982.

4 stars 1982: Anyone's Daughter - In Blau - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMwa-jqdfuQ&t=1994s
4 stars 1982: Jethro Tull - The Broadsword and the Beast - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_TaS3ukydpKPVfOPGMDzgWbTLXgYS20v
4 stars 1982: Alan Parsons Project - Eye in the Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LvFf3sDZHLuhwlbMT-yLM01
4 stars 1982: Pat Metheny Group - Offramp
4 stars 1982: Third Quadrant - Seeing Yourself as You Really Are - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNZn5Rhk7Q
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I'm not sure I can accommodate the dismissal of J-R Fusion, Avant/RIO, Zeuhl, and Prog Metal music and bands from people's consideration of that which is progressive rock music: it's all one and the same to me. Heck! Even a lot of the experimental pop, New Wave, and techno-pop in the 80s always felt "progressive" to me (and it was certainly still rock 'n' roll). Thus, I find it sad and narrow-minded to not include artists like Pat Metheny, Univers Zero, Swans, Shub-Niggurath, Klaus Schulze, Allan Holdsworth, Earthworks, David Sylvian, XTC, Ozric Tentacles, Queensr˙che, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Brian Eno, Jon Hassell, and even The Fixx in a discussion thread like this.
 


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1982: another significant year for nascent Neo Prog which saw the release of the first two studio albums and they were both by the same band: Twelfth Night! 

Paul, please respect the OP. Shocked
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Hmm.. are there any non-Japanese late 80's (1987-1989) ELP style albums? I've already checked out the Japanese ones so that's why I'm being so specific. There's a couple of Early 80s ones but I have no idea if this type of music carried on later outside of Japan.
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One could wonder how big a difference there was between the '70s and the '80s when talking about quantity. Well, according 
to RYM, the '70s had 360-520 releases each year while this amounts to 170-360 for the '80s. Only about 10% of the '80s releases 
was by Neo-Prog.

https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/neo-prog/
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

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Eskaton - 4 Visions
Shub-Niggurath - Les Mort Vont Vite
Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden
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Camberwell Now - The Ghost Trade
Cardiacs - A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window
Dead Can Dance - Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun
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This Heat - Deceit
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

1982: another significant year for nascent Neo Prog which saw the release of the first two studio albums and they were both by the same band: Twelfth Night! 

Paul, please respect the OP. Shocked
Why would you object to me giving the late great Geoff Mann & Twelfth Night a brief mention? Ouch


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Why would you object to me giving the late great Geoff Mann & Twelfth Night a brief mention? Ouch

It looks to me, you're planning to list Neo-Prog albums for each year.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Why would you object to me giving the late great Geoff Mann & Twelfth Night a brief mention? Ouch

It looks to me, you're planning to list Neo-Prog albums for each year.
No, only for 1982. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

No, only for 1982. Wink

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When talking about quality and characteristics, one can wonder how much of the '80s Progressive Rock can be comparable to 
the classic one from the '70s. I think that can at least be said about Avant-Prog, RIO and Zeuhl, which, again according to RYM's 
informations, amounted to about 20% of all the releases in the '80s. ( https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/avant-prog/ )
There was surely also quite a bit of other albums, for instance some of those on my list.
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