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^ At least, not all true dinosaur albums. Big smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

There was plenty of good music around in the late-1980's. 

I'd say, there was a lot of good music in the whole '80s. Actually, it's my second favourite all-music decade next after the '70s, and not least thanks to various kind of Punk. Tongue


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

There was plenty of good music around in the late-1980's. 

I'd say, there was a lot of good music in the whole '80s. Actually, it's my second favourite all-music decade next after the '70s, and not least thanks to various kinds of Punk. Tongue
Yes, and if you add Neo Prog and Synth-Pop/New Wave to the equation too, it more than doubles the amount of good music there was around in the eighties. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Yes, and if you add Neo Prog and Synth-Pop/New Wave to the equation too, it more than doubles the amount of good music there was around in the eighties. Thumbs Up

Certainly yes! ....or at least for the Poppers. Tongue

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

There was plenty of good music around in the late-1980's. We just didn't know where to find it without the Internet. Smile

For instance, out of that 1989 albums list above, the only three albums I knew of before joining ProgArchives were by Kate Bush, Tears for Fears & Vangelis. Embarrassed


Yeah, but we"re talking about good music (prog or not)TongueEvil SmileLOL


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But when talking about Prog Metal in the late-'80s, I finally today, after a year and many listenings, got almost into Voivod's 
Nothingface, which I'm not so little happy about, as I've had my doubts but have been much up to being able to do it. Tongue
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Did anyone mention Bob Fripp's amazing League of Gentlemen? 


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As long as I'm on a Bob-Fripp-1980's tear, let's not forget his impressive work with Andy Summers!!

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Reissues are again required for both Fripp/Summers albums!
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Reissues are again required for both Fripp/Summers albums!

Thanks for reminding me of their second album, "Bewitched!" 

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The Police were actually close to becoming a prog band in my eyes when they stopped (perhaps thats the reason!). Andy Summers (ex Soft Machine) and Stewart Copeland (ex Curved Air) had already touched on the genre outside of this band. Shame they didn't continue although Sting did a crossover jazz fusion album Bring On The Night which is quite fun. IMO!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I guess it won't surprise you, Paul, when I say that surely not all the albums you list would get the stamp from me as 
"proper Progressive Rock", even they're approved by Wikipedia. Wink
No, me neither. .....
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love

I wish, Paul, you had more respect for the OPs and for the strong feelings, I think not so few of us have for Progressive Rock as a genre, because at least for me, it is not easy to accept the way you act.


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Thank you very much for some good discussion here. Smile








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I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!  

The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime. 

I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well! 



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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

I know there is a "conspiracy" TongueLOL on PA to rehabilitate the 80's as a normal (good) decade, by seeing the amount of 80's polls series in the last two years of the forum, but the 80's still sucked because of its second half. Of course, the weak start (81 to 85) didn't help either.

I could mention a tracks "conspiracy" and a couple more. Big smile

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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!  

The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime. 

I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well! 

It doesn't look Prog to me, either.  Wink

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

I'm still on a Bob Fripp tear!  

The album by the Roche sisters featured Bob Fripp and Tony Levin.  Fripp's guitar work on this song is sublime. 

I find this music rarely acknowledged in prog land.  Sorry, 1979, oh well! 

It doesn't look Prog to me, either.  Wink


Compared to what, exactly?  Did you listen to Fripp's guitar work in any of those clips? 
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

I guess it won't surprise you, Paul, when I say that surely not all the albums you list would get the stamp from me as 
"proper Progressive Rock", even they're approved by Wikipedia. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

5 stars 1989: Tears for Fears - The Seeds of Love
I wish, Paul, you had more respect for the OPs and for the strong feelings, I think not so few of us have for Progressive Rock as a genre, because at least for me, it is not easy to accept the way you act.

No comments, Paul?

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Tears For Fears were 'Art rock' but then so was Kate Bush. Both were equally important and both were a massive respite from so much dismal over produced 80's shyte from artists with zero talent. 
If we dismiss Seeds Of Love as not being worthy of the tag 'prog' then we can equally dismiss The Sensual World IMO.
The idea of 'crossover prog' is just a massive deceit imo. Basically a bunch of artists that we randomly like or don't like that didn't make commercial driven music.

 
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The main point here concerning Tears for Fears is that they are not included in PA, and thus are not considered to be Prog by PA. 
So if to respect my OP, the band should not be listed, neither if to respect the PA rules for Progressive Music Lounges. Personally, 
I consider The Seeds of Love to be Pop-Rock, and so do Paul, I think.







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