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Dragon Phoenix 
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 08:53 |
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Epics? let's say 10+ minutes songs. Plenty of choice within prog and
prog related, but what are your favourites in other pop/rock genres?
Mine:
1. Telegraph road - Dire Straits
2. Welcome to the pleasuredome - FGTH
I have difficulty even thinking if a third one.....
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 11:31 |
The only ones I can really think of are Hendrix's Voodoo Chile at 15:05 and Do What You Like by Blind Faith (not sure).
The others such as Freebird and Kashmir aren't over 10 mins (unless you count the full studio version of Freebird with the epic ending, which I've only come across on one compilation).
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Dick Heath
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 13:03 |
 chopper wrote:
The only ones I can really think of are Hendrix's Voodoo Chile at 15:05 and Do What You Like by Blind Faith (not sure).
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Jams! Read the story of the making of Electric Ladyland and you'll discover Hendrix, started what turned out to be Voodoo Chile as a jam with friends (e.g. Stevie Winwood and Jack Casidy) in a music club and then shot round to his newly finished studios, and they resumed jamming. Noel Redding complained there were too many hangers on in the studio for him to play - Hendrix's response was enough for Redding to go home and leave them at it. Voodoo Chile is an elaborate splice job combining several fragments of the jam sessions that stopped and started several times in reality.
Do What You Like - excuse for a Ginger Baker drum solo also a tune that runs out of ideas long before it finishes? You can understand a little why Clapton subsequently disappeared into Delaney and Bonnie and decided to play more like the Band
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:26 |
And then there was silence - Blind Guardian
Sankaritarina - Moonsorrow
Seasons - Magna Carta
The Everlasting - Virgin Black
Travel in Stygian (almost 10min), The Suffering (trylogy of interconnected songs), The Devil To Pay - Iced Earth
Salisbury & July Morning (don't remember if its over 10mins) - Uriah Heep
Phoenix, Handy - Wishbone Ash
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida - Iron Butterfly
In My Time Of Dying - Led Zeppelin (not quite epic, but still)
Black Sabbath - Sleeping Vilage
Last Exit For The Lost (almost 10min) - Fields Of The Nephilim
That's about all I can come up with for now.
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Peace Frog
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 15:51 |
my favourite non-prog epics
The Diamond Sea- Sonic Youth
Achilles Last Stand- Led Zeppelin
When The Music's Over- The Doors
The End- The Doors
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Rosescar
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 16:09 |
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I took these from my iTunes library;
Nirvana - All Apologies (31:32)
Nirvana - Something In The Way (20:35)
David Bowie - Width Of A Circle (15:45)
The Verve - Come On (15:14)
Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing (12:11)
The Doors - The End (11:40)
George Harrison - Out Of The Blue (jam) (11:16)
The Doors - When The Music's Over (10:58)
Jimi Hendrix - Bleeding Heart (live) (10:43)
Led Zeppelin - Carouselambra (10:34)
Jimi Hendrix - Red House (live) (10:33)
Wishbone Ash - Phoenix (10:29)
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand (10:23)
Guns N' Roses - Coma (10:13)
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Easy Livin
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 16:16 |
A favourite of mine is "Green Grass and High tide" by The Outlaws.
Others include:
"The lady of Shalott" by Lorenna McKennitt
"Stargazer" by Rainbow
"I heard it through the grapevine" by Creedence Clearwater Revival
"All around the word" by Oasis
"Like a hurricane" and "Change your mind" by Neil Young
"Sniper" and "A better place to be" by Harry Chapin
"Lord of the ages" by Magna Carta
"I'm your captain/Closer to home" by Grand Funk Railroad (and "Loneliness")
"Walk on" by Boston
"Parents" by Budgie
"Eight miles high" by the Byrds
"Crusader" by Chris DeBurgh
"Foxfire suite" by John Denver
"The medley" on "Red Rose Speedway" by Wings
"The African Trilogy" by Neil Diamond (superb)
"I'm so afraid" (Live) by Fleetwood Mac
"Still in love with you" by Thin Lizzy
"American woman/Truckin'off across the sky" (Live) by Guess Who
"Funeral for a friend/Love lies bleeding" by Elton John
"Bat out of hell" and many more by Meatloaf
"Pull the damn thing down" by John Miles
"Nostradamus/The world goes to Riyadh" by Al Stewart
"Won't get fooled again" by The Who (a bit short maybe?)
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 16:18 |
Iron Maiden - The rime of the Ancient Mariner
Helloween - Halloween
Helloween - The Keeper of the Seven Keys
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salmacis
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Posted: February 14 2006 at 16:35 |
Great list Easy Livin'- not much I can add but I'll just mention some favourites...not sure how many approach 10 minutes, but still...
There's a really great epic by a long forgotten NWOBHM band called White Spirit called 'Fool For The Gods'. For more NWOBHM epics, try out Diamond Head's 'Am I Evil?', whereas Iron Maiden tend to have one per album. Samson did a mini-epic in the Manfred Mann's Earth Band styled 'Tomorrow Or Yesterday', and Angel Witch delivered a pseudo epic, Rush meets Sabbath track in 'Baphomet'...for trad metalheads, The Scorpions did 'Fly To The Rainbow' and Judas Priest did a superb epic in 'Dreamer/Deceiver' and more recently, 'Lochness'.
I always loved Elton John's brilliant 'Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding', which seems to be one of the greatest examples of a prog epic not by a prog artist.
Alice Cooper's amazing 'Halo Of Flies' is another great favourite, and Meatloaf never made a better song than 'Bat Out Of Hell'. Al Stewart did many an epic in his time; he did a 16 minute song called 'Love Chronicles' way back in 1969.
Bruce Springsteen's 'Jungleland' is an all time favourite epic, and Neil Young's 'Like A Hurricane' was just about one of the greatest things I'd ever heard when I first encountered it, and remains so.
Stevie Wonder has delivered various long form tracks, the best I remember is 'Living For The City'.
Magnum have done various excellent epics in 'Reborn', 'In The Beginning' and their longest one, 'Don't Wake The Lion'. Boston also did a top notch one in 'Foreplay/Long Time' that starts out like a great prog track yet goes into more traditional AOR fare.
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 09:22 |
Rosescar wrote:
I took these from my iTunes library;
Nirvana - All Apologies (31:32)
Nirvana - Something In The Way (20:35)
David Bowie - Width Of A Circle (15:45)
The Verve - Come On (15:14)
Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing (12:11)
The Doors - The End (11:40)
George Harrison - Out Of The Blue (jam) (11:16)
The Doors - When The Music's Over (10:58)
Jimi Hendrix - Bleeding Heart (live) (10:43)
Led Zeppelin - Carouselambra (10:34)
Jimi Hendrix - Red House (live) (10:33)
Wishbone Ash - Phoenix (10:29)
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand (10:23)
Guns N' Roses - Coma (10:13)
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Those Nirvana ones are only that long because there are hidden tracks ~15 minutes after the track ends, so those are mostly just silence
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ulver982
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 11:31 |
Just a few a my favs...
Nugera Bunget - n' Crugu Bradului III (15:12)
Katatonia - Velt thorns (of drynwhyl) (13:57) <--from their doom metal release
My Dying Bride - The Cry of Mankind (12:13)
Burzum - Det Som En gang Var (14:21)
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 12:53 |
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paulindigo
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 14:42 |
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Motorpsycho have quite a few: The Golden Core, Un chien d'espace,
Rad. Freq, Taifun (not quite sure if they're all above the 10 mins
mark).
And Rainbow's Catch the Rainbow (live version from On Stage).
But of course all these songs could be considered as prog-related,
so I don't know if they count...
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Kotro
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 16:52 |
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Guns n' Roses epics (Estranged and Coma) are great.
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Bigger on the inside.
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 18:56 |
Not exactly epics in the strictest sense of the word.
Anything The Allman Brothers did live usually ended up being a very long jam session.
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David - Never doubt in the dark that which you believe to be true in the light.
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 21:29 |
Wishbone Ash: The King Will Come - Warrior - Throw down the Sword of the Argus album imho is one epic which should be considered as one song (And should be here on this site!)
The Doors: The End, When The Music's Over
CCR: I Heard it through the Grapevine
Bob Dylan: Brownsville Girl, Hurricane (only 8'33 but a true epic)
Neil Young: Like A Hurricane (from the Weld CD: 14 min)
Guns 'n Roses: Estranged (9'20) and Coma
Metallica: The Outlaw Torn (9'48), Merciful Fate (11'11)
Iron Maiden: 7th Son of a 7th Son (9'53 actually), Rime of the Ancient Mariner
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 22:22 |
Guns and Roses: November Rain (Nearly 10 min)
Flaming Lips: Hell's Angels Cracker Factory
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Posted: February 15 2006 at 23:36 |
The Who- A Quick One, While He's Away, a 9:15 mini-opera... 
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 01:01 |
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Aside from the many mentioned above
Poco - Crazy Eyes is the main prog styled epic I have ...
There are other lengthy tracks by the Grateful Dead, Velvet Underground
(Sister Ray), Love (Revelations), Van Morisson, Lou Reed ... even The
Beatles I Want You (She's So Heavy) that come to mind ... but many are
long because of jam/improvs not epic structure ...
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Posted: February 16 2006 at 01:19 |
Led Zeppelin - Achilles Last Stand...most people don't give this song enough recognition; it's easily my favorite Zeppelin song, and far and away (at least one of) their best compositions.
The Decemberists - The Tain
Karate - Cancel, Sing
Pat Methent Group - The Way Up
That's all I got right now.
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