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    Posted: March 16 2006 at 23:47

Is there anyone hear that also listens to these guys.Really good stuff for Prog Metal fans.

How come they are not in the Archives?

 
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because they're power metal, not prog metal.

they're not bad tho.

I like their cover of Simon&Garfunkel's 'sound of silence'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 00:02
Nevermore are definatly prog metal and deserve to be here  
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^^^Thats the way I feel but i can see how others may differ.
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I would have called them thrash metal, though not the usual crap. They borrow elements of prog and speed metal, but overall the sound seems to owe more to thrash. Whatever the heck they are, they're pretty good.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 01:47

I really dig Nevermore.The prog metal team is discussing their addition now,to prog related.

If you like Nevermore check out the band Communic.Their Conspiracy in Mind album is superb.


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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 17:11

^ I am not sure if they can be considered prog or prog-related

of course they have many many technical elements

and I love everything they have produced so far (including Sanctuary )
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2006 at 18:43

I would say no- I see them as Power Metal as well- boderline Death metal- I think their songs are a bit too 4/4ish, and similar to one-another to be considered prog-

Your right about Communic Jody- they are awesome.



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Points: 21805 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 01:32
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I would say no- I see them as Power Metal as well- boderline Death metal-

Sorry, but I don't see any Death Metal elements here ... on none of their albums.

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I think their songs are a bit too 4/4ish, and similar to one-another to be considered prog-

So you mean if they threw in more 7/8 or 17/16 they might be more prog?

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Your right about Communic Jody- they are awesome.

Agreed.
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I think they're a good band... but I really think they're power metal that's not progressive.
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Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

I think they're a good band... but I really think they're power metal that's not progressive.

I think that Power Metal can be divided into two large groups - simple/mainstream and complex/unusual. Nevermore clearly belong to the second group ...
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 12:36
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

I think they're a good band... but I really think they're power metal that's not progressive.

I think that Power Metal can be divided into two large groups - simple/mainstream and complex/unusual. Nevermore clearly belong to the second group ...

totally agree on that

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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 12:58
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I would say no- I see them as Power Metal as well- boderline Death metal-

Sorry, but I don't see any Death Metal elements here ... on none of their albums.

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I think their songs are a bit too 4/4ish, and similar to one-another to be considered prog-

So you mean if they threw in more 7/8 or 17/16 they might be more prog?

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Your right about Communic Jody- they are awesome.

Agreed.

Geeze Mike- if I knew you were going to pick apart my post that took me 20 secs to write I would have taken more time

how could you not see that varying time signatures is an element of prog- esp prog metal?



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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

how could you not see that varying time signatures is an element of prog- esp prog metal?

Yes, it is *one* element - but certainly not the only one. And because of that it is wrong to deduce from a lack of time signature changes (or unusual signatures) that something isn't progressive.

I know many progressive bands that rarely use signature changes (many post rock bands for a start), and some bands with ever shifting signatures that aren't prog (most thrash metal).
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 18 2006 at 14:30
^I'll take that



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Points: 184 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2006 at 04:58
eh, i'm sort of divided

it definitely feels different than other thrash metal out there
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Points: 21805 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 19 2006 at 05:41
^it's a mixture of Power and Thrash. Perhaps it's easier to say on the album level? The Politics of Extasy is a good example of their proggier side, and several songs from all the other albums.
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