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    Posted: June 09 2006 at 10:44
I'm not terribly familiar with Rush.......in fact, listening to "Moving Pictures", I have to confess this is the first of their albums I've heard Embarrassed , but I rather like it, even on first listen......it started an unfair comparison in my mind, about the different uses to which various bands have put the "power trio".
 
It's obviously a style I like - I'm a big fan of KC's version (even though they cheated with an extra guy on violin & another on sheet metal Wink ); and I also like Cream's interpretation, which maybe was heavier on the bass; and Robin Trower's take, more bluesy, and with a great growling vocalist.......
 
So, who do you reckon was/is the best/most interesting exponent of the power trio? I'm sure there are lots more I've forgotten or never heard of......but I still reckon KC did the most within the genre.....
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KC is my favorite of the one you mentionned but we cannot forget about ELP. Their music was really powerful indeed. Clap

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I got interrupted in the middle of writing my first post here.....so lost my train of thought......meant to define power trio as the guitar/bass/drums combo - so, on that basis , I wouldn't include ELP, good as they are (and Tarkus blows me away......)
 
So, with apologies to Bern & others, can I restart this under that definition? Big smile
 
I also meant to say, without disparagement to Rush, that they seem to play the trio concept pretty straight (on the extensive evidence of ...errrrrmm.... one album........well, most of it........)....although I love their stuff already......will definitely be getting more..........it's amazing how many different styles one can create from that simple threesome - Rush, KC, Cream, Trower & ?
 
And why is it always the poor bass player who has to make an arse of himself by singing? Does the rest of the band really think bassists do that little otherwise? Cry
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Cream and Rush are probably the best of this lot, but don't forget The Jam! Oh, and The Police.
 
Bass players never make arses of themselves but I don't know why most of the singers were bass players. Paul Weller would be the exception here, and Eric Clapton did his share of Cream vocals.


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ELP is the best power prog trio that ever existed.  Rush a distant 2nd.
 
I would not count KC or the later versions of Genesis among trios  (1990s Genesis sold out to pop). 
 
 
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Rush, Cream, Budgie and The Police.
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ELP, Rush and KC!
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Originally posted by Urubaen Urubaen wrote:

ELP is the best power prog trio that ever existed.  Rush a distant 2nd.
 
 


Uhm... I think you have that statement bass-ackwards.  Rush is the greatest power trio ever; ELP is a far distant second.Smile
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Although Red the only album that KC ever did as a trio (I think that's true), they still had considerable help with other players.
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Check out 1974`s  Dance of the Flames by Guru Guru. Houschang Nejadepour`s speed of light guitar playing will make you think it`s John McLaughlin. I`ve fooled more than one pereson with this album.Wink
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I think you'd have to include the Who as a power trio because all Roger did was sing and pose.
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Rush,Triumph and ELP
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I love power trios (I play in one!). Rush has always been my favorite in rock, but the format is used extensively in jazz/rock fusion and you don't have to hear any singing bass players: Shawn Lane/Jonas Hellborg/Jeff Sipe, Bozzio/Levin/Stevens, The Steve Morse Band, Niacin, Cab 1, Cabezas De Cera, Polytown, Ohm... I know I cn think of more...

By the way, do power trios with a singer (like Tool) count?


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He said POWER TRIO.
 
Everyone is naming some great trio's but The Police and ELP aren't power trio's.


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outside of prog I'd like to mention the Manic Street Preachers. frankly even before Ritchie jumped off that bridge he was only contributing lyrics.. Tongue
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Cream and Rush are probably the best of this lot, but don't forget The Jam! Oh, and The Police.
 

Bass players never make arses of themselves but I don't know why most of the singers were bass players. Paul Weller would be the exception here, and Eric Clapton did his share of Cream vocals.

    
No surprise but Rush are my favourite 'power trio' as for Cream, well I never paid any attention to Cream at al, because I've never liked Claptons other work. But, they showed their anniversary concert fairly recently, and I thought they sounded great. Baker was still a fine drummer. So, if you have any Cream reccomendations please let me know Alan..

I agree about The Police, excellent band!
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The Jimi Hendrix Experiance was a great power trio
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For pure prog power, ELP is The Only Way to go.  From the Beginning these guys were electric -- prog surged with them.

There's a Time and a Place for talking about bands other than ELP, but this topic is not it.  Take a Pebble, i.e. any band other than ELP, and then compare it to the massive rock of ELP... Miniscule, man, in the grand prog scheme of things cause ELP are massive Stones of Years -- just talking about them is making me approach critical Mass.
 
These guys rock so hard I feel I'm in seismic shock.  They put "da bomb" in "da bombastic" with their explosive sound.  Explosive dy-no-mite.  TNT ya know (oh wait, that's AC DC). 

If you were to put ELP in a rocket ship powered by prog up against other bands in their own prog-fueled rockets, ELP would blast off so fast that the other bands would be left on the ground choking on their noxious flaming exhaust fumes while ELP shoots their prog missile into Infinite Space.  They'd be shooting off for the stars faster than you can say Eruption!
 
They were a prog volcano that shot for the stars, man.  ELP were explosive mountains of prog.  They were dy-no-mite.  ELP is ballistically bombastic.  Just their bombast alone could practically set-off a nuclear detonation.  They bang, bam!
 
For You, ELP... too bad the Taste of My [and your] Love was sour, or soured somewhat, when you prematurely exploded with Love Beach -- I mean it bombed big-time.  So Far To Fall *sighs* Oh well, C'est la Vie, despite Love Beach, Still..., ELP, You Turn Me On!
 
For you It was Love at First Sight?  Nah, I'm not so inclined, but it was love, or like at least. at first listen.  Nobody Loves You Like I Do. Tank you ELP, your music has made me feel like the true Lucky Man.  Hallowed Be Thy Name!
 
All I Want is You, ELP, and I know I'm In Honourable Company.  After reading this post, I can only hope that the skeptics are a little Closer to Believing.  If music is Food for your Soul, then ELP is a hearty beefcake dinner as you can see...

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3694&PID=78582#78582
 
Only. of course I was just kidding around in an on-over-the-top (ELP is over-the-top) fanboyish manner..  Still, all things considered, I will choose ELP -- this trio has true prog power, and are about as synonymous with prog as a band can be.


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King Crimson by far!!
 
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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

He said POWER TRIO.
 

Everyone is naming some great trio's but The Police and ELP aren't power trio's.


I thought ELP were generally regarded as a power trio. Have I misunderstood the definition?: Three people making powerful rock music..??




      
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