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MadcapLaughs84 
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Posted: October 11 2006 at 12:34 |
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Maynard is the man. TOOL
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Prog-man
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Posted: October 11 2006 at 02:07 |
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Arriving somewhere but not here
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KoS
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Posted: October 11 2006 at 00:02 |
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Erpland316
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Posted: October 10 2006 at 23:48 |
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Even though I love Opeth(saw them last week in Atlanta) I would say in the long run I love TOOL more.
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cuncuna
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Posted: October 10 2006 at 23:34 |
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TOOL, because they got two "o" and opeth only has one...
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darkshade
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Posted: October 10 2006 at 23:18 |
 Falling Flower wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts.
Opeth are a class act all the way. |
On what planet do you live. 
On mtv here they play Opeth, but never have they played Tool.
They don't even talk about Tool on tv or radio here.  |
on what planet do YOU live?
on mine, MTV doesnt play music videos
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nowayman121
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Posted: October 10 2006 at 03:07 |
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I'm a big fan of both bands, but Opeth takes my vote here due to there extreme contrasting sections. I think Opeth has done more experimentation in there music then Tool even though Tool has done alot too
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hamham
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Posted: October 09 2006 at 19:41 |
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Eh, the two bands have almost nothing common between them, not gonna vote on this poll.
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 20:51 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
Visitor13 wrote:
Love both, but Opeth it is. If only "10 000 Days" had been better...
BTW, I don't watch MTV, so maybe the people here who seem to do could tell me what makes an "MTV band".
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MTV band: act or artist who are given plenty of daylight airtime to promote their music. Tool was given such exposure as soon as "Undertow" was released. They were a buzz band. "Prison Sex" & "Sober" were regularly on MTV's playlist.
I'm not saying the band themselves "sold their souls" or "cashed in" for what fame they have. But that exposure made them a household word. I attribute their large fan base to this fact. I don't think Tool is the worst band I ever heard, their music just isn't that interesting. There are many other bands, worthy of the praise laid on Tool, that don't recieve the recognition they deserve. |
"Pull Me Under" and "Take the Time" got regular rotation on MTV, does this make Dream Theater an "MTV buzz band"?
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Empathy
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 20:44 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
I don't think Tool is the worst band I ever heard, their music just isn't that interesting to me. |
Edited by Empathy - October 08 2006 at 20:45
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Pure Brilliance: 
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wodaemang
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 20:30 |
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and if u cant tell, my vote goes to tool....not that i dont like opeth, its just tool does more for me
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wodaemang
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 20:28 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
Visitor13 wrote:
Love both, but Opeth it is. If only "10 000 Days" had been better...BTW, I don't watch MTV, so maybe the people here who seem to do could tell me what makes an "MTV band". |
MTV band: act or artist who are given plenty of daylight airtime to promote their music. Tool was given such exposure as soon as "Undertow" was released. They were a buzz band. "Prison Sex" & "Sober" were regularly on MTV's playlist.
I'm not saying the band themselves "sold their souls" or "cashed in" for what fame they have. But that exposure made them a household word. I attribute their large fan base to this fact. I don't think Tool is the worst band I ever heard, their music just isn't that interesting. There are many other bands, worthy of the praise laid on Tool, that don't recieve the recognition they deserve. |
i dont know if you could be more wrong, for you to say that tool is/was a "buzz band" is ridiculous, just so u know, their style of music has long since been all but banished from mtv, and even if undertow was played a lot on mtv, which it was, it still pushed the boundaries of the style of music, if u dont believe me, go listen to sober and tell me that there was a band in 1993 in the metal genre that recorded a song that sounded similar. mtv is now a haven for pop punk and emo bands, for you to even throw tool in that is completely absurd and for lack of a better word offensive. tool pushes the boundaries on what metal is supposed to be, its as simple as that, try and find one band that sounds like them, their sound is completely original, ill agree that many bands dont get the recognition they deserve, but for you to say that tool doesnt deserve the recognition they get is completely offensive and misinformed.
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 14:19 |
Visitor13 wrote:
Love both, but Opeth it is. If only "10 000 Days" had been better...
BTW, I don't watch MTV, so maybe the people here who seem to do could tell me what makes an "MTV band".
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MTV band: act or artist who are given plenty of daylight airtime to promote their music. Tool was given such exposure as soon as "Undertow" was released. They were a buzz band. "Prison Sex" & "Sober" were regularly on MTV's playlist.
I'm not saying the band themselves "sold their souls" or "cashed in" for what fame they have. But that exposure made them a household word. I attribute their large fan base to this fact. I don't think Tool is the worst band I ever heard, their music just isn't that interesting. There are many other bands, worthy of the praise laid on Tool, that don't recieve the recognition they deserve.
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Visitor13
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Posted: October 08 2006 at 13:26 |
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Love both, but Opeth it is. If only "10 000 Days" had been better...
BTW, I don't watch MTV, so maybe the people here who seem to do could tell me what makes an "MTV band".
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el böthy
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 20:18 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
bctruce wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts. |
Have any other complete inaccuracies you'd like to share?
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First of all; it was not my intention to offend anyone. I knew that some would think I didn't know what I was talking about. But, even if everyone would disagree with me, I'll stand by my OPINION.
I love prog, and I love metal, but TO ME; only a few artists, that I've heard, can play metal and keep it truly progressive. I believe Tool fails to do that. They bore me!
Right now Lateralus is ranked 27 on the PA chart. I know they have a huge following. But I look at their place on the archives the same as Rhapsody, Nightwish, and Styx.
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Ahhh...enough said, the man is bored! Now, this makes all the difference...and I thought he was just pulling crap of his ass. No! the man has a point...Tool is "commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts" driven...cause they bore him...and you know, that isnt really progressive! No,no,no...sure am glad people like him say this kind of holy truth, before I think I like them just because the music...no! There is a whole history of Sharon hot dogs pony mtv going on behind Tool! Tank you!
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Melomaniac
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 11:00 |
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Opeth, why even compare the two ?
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 10:49 |
bctruce wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts. |
Have any other complete inaccuracies you'd like to share?
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First of all; it was not my intention to offend anyone. I knew that some would think I didn't know what I was talking about. But, even if everyone would disagree with me, I'll stand by my OPINION.
I love prog, and I love metal, but TO ME; only a few artists, that I've heard, can play metal and keep it truly progressive. I believe Tool fails to do that. They bore me!
Right now Lateralus is ranked 27 on the PA chart. I know they have a huge following. But I look at their place on the archives the same as Rhapsody, Nightwish, and Styx.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 09:44 |
Stop it !!!!!!!!You're blowing my head!!!  Tool,just because they're losing.But I love both equally and consider them to be the best in Prog-Metal now 
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 06:55 |
Magic Mountain wrote:
Magic Mountain wrote:
Falling Flower wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts.
Opeth are a class act all the way. |
On what planet do you live.
On mtv here they play Opeth, but never have they played Tool.
They don't even talk about Tool on tv or radio here. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but actually Tool won music video of the year with their video for "Sober" from "Undertow."
As for the question, I love both bands and have all of their cds. However, I will chose Tool since they do not use the cookie monster voice. While I've grown to tolerate it for Opeth because of their great music, I'd prefer that they would not use the growls. Call me an old fart. |
I stand corrected. Tool won the following video awards:
Tool won the 1993 Billboard Music Video Awards for Best New Artist, and their video for "Sober" won for Best Clip, Hard Rock/Metal
"Prison Sex" was nominated for 1995's MTV Music Video Awards' Best Special Effects category.
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Yes I know, but I was saying that they completely ignore the band on dutch mtv and other dutch music channels.
They were here on a festival, and they showed every single band of that festival on tv, exept Tool
And to all the "omg they won an award so they must be commercial puppies" people...ever thought that they might just be good, not commercial, just good? 
I wouldn't even care if they were commercial tho. I saw an intervieuw with Maynard about some movie and the reporter asked "So what made you want to do this movie?" and Maynard just simply and deadseriously answered "The money.", I laughed my ass off with that. 
Edited by Falling Flower - October 07 2006 at 06:56
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 Tool makes the butterflies in my tumybox go woooooooosh
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SolariS
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 22:46 |
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I wish I could see what everyone else sees in tool. I've tried to like them, but they leave me emotionless and bored. I think they had a new sound once upon a time, but now it feels rehashed and stale. I understand that many people have a sort of sentimentalism for this band, but I will always just feel like an onlooker.
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