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Empathy
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 15:41 |
Tool.
Opeth is _very_ good, but Tool takes it to a whole new level conceptually.
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markosherrera
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 15:58 |
well i like OPETH that have the mix of death metal and symphonis rock that make it one of the best but tool sometimes seems a MTV band.
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markosherrera
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 16:23 |
opeth is better because its one of the best mixing deathmetal with symphonic . tool sometimes seems a MTV BAND.
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 16:45 |
Opeth by a mile for me. They're my favorite band of all time so the choice wasn't terribly hard.
Not that Tool are bad, but they're just not my style. I would defend Maynard though, the posts labeling them as MTV darlings are far from the truth, you guys need to think about what you're saying. Tool do get radioplay, but they are not as out there as you all are claiming.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 16:48 |
That is the problem I had with someone's post,acting like they were media crazy.For the firs couple of years I got into Tool I barely knew what they looked like.They don't appear in their videos,and in the early days pretty much shunned the media. And the Sharon Osbourne comment totally mystified me.
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Empathy
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 16:52 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
That is the problem I had with someone's
post,acting like they were media crazy.For the firs couple of years I
got into Tool I barely knew what they looked like.They don't appear in
their videos,and in the early days pretty much shunned the media.
And the Sharon Osbourne comment totally mystified me. |
I'm pretty much at a loss about all the "MTV Band" comments, and the like.
I, for one, think it's the time-honored "If it's popular it must suck" phenomenon.
Tool has more or less broken every unwritten rule about how to make it in the music industry.
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KoS
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 17:07 |
Tool, by a mile and 7/8.
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GPFR
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 17:10 |
Mlaen wrote:
I like Opeth better.
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Yep, me too. As simple as that.
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Open-Mind
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 17:22 |
Opeth for me too
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the icon of sin
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 17:48 |
Tool edge it for me, mainly due to "Lateralus" being my favourite album bar none.
Opeth have more stuff, do more tours etc. but Tool's time is special. Can't wait to see them in Nottingham on December 1st.
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The Miracle
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 18:20 |
I love Opeth but Tool are just too good. As far as prog metal coes they beat all but DT for me.
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el böthy
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 19:32 |
Why dont you just ask me which testicle I like more??? too hard...I mean maybe as a band in general Opeth...but then there is Lateralus perfection...I dont know
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Selkie
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 20:08 |
Opeth by a long shot, Tool doesn't do much for me anymore. I used to be a tool fan, but their music just seems tedious and dull now.
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moonlapse
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 22:31 |
Opeth rules.
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SolariS
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Posted: October 06 2006 at 22:46 |
I wish I could see what everyone else sees in tool. I've tried to like them, but they leave me emotionless and bored. I think they had a new sound once upon a time, but now it feels rehashed and stale. I understand that many people have a sort of sentimentalism for this band, but I will always just feel like an onlooker.
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Falling Flower
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 06:55 |
Magic Mountain wrote:
Magic Mountain wrote:
Falling Flower wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts.
Opeth are a class act all the way. |
On what planet do you live.
On mtv here they play Opeth, but never have they played Tool.
They don't even talk about Tool on tv or radio here. |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but actually Tool won music video of the year with their video for "Sober" from "Undertow."
As for the question, I love both bands and have all of their cds. However, I will chose Tool since they do not use the cookie monster voice. While I've grown to tolerate it for Opeth because of their great music, I'd prefer that they would not use the growls. Call me an old fart. |
I stand corrected. Tool won the following video awards:
Tool won the 1993 Billboard Music Video Awards for Best New Artist, and their video for "Sober" won for Best Clip, Hard Rock/Metal
"Prison Sex" was nominated for 1995's MTV Music Video Awards' Best Special Effects category.
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Yes I know, but I was saying that they completely ignore the band on dutch mtv and other dutch music channels.
They were here on a festival, and they showed every single band of that festival on tv, exept Tool
And to all the "omg they won an award so they must be commercial puppies" people...ever thought that they might just be good, not commercial, just good?
I wouldn't even care if they were commercial tho. I saw an intervieuw with Maynard about some movie and the reporter asked "So what made you want to do this movie?" and Maynard just simply and deadseriously answered "The money.", I laughed my ass off with that.
Edited by Falling Flower - October 07 2006 at 06:56
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Tool makes the butterflies in my tumybox go woooooooosh
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Prog-jester
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 09:44 |
Stop it !!!!!!!!You're blowing my head!!! Tool,just because they're losing.But I love both equally and consider them to be the best in Prog-Metal now
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Clark Ashton
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 10:49 |
bctruce wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts. |
Have any other complete inaccuracies you'd like to share?
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First of all; it was not my intention to offend anyone. I knew that some would think I didn't know what I was talking about. But, even if everyone would disagree with me, I'll stand by my OPINION.
I love prog, and I love metal, but TO ME; only a few artists, that I've heard, can play metal and keep it truly progressive. I believe Tool fails to do that. They bore me!
Right now Lateralus is ranked 27 on the PA chart. I know they have a huge following. But I look at their place on the archives the same as Rhapsody, Nightwish, and Styx.
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Melomaniac
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 11:00 |
Opeth, why even compare the two ?
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"One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio
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el böthy
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Posted: October 07 2006 at 20:18 |
Clark Ashton wrote:
bctruce wrote:
Clark Ashton wrote:
Tool does have it's merits, but at the end of the day they are just commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts. |
Have any other complete inaccuracies you'd like to share?
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First of all; it was not my intention to offend anyone. I knew that some would think I didn't know what I was talking about. But, even if everyone would disagree with me, I'll stand by my OPINION.
I love prog, and I love metal, but TO ME; only a few artists, that I've heard, can play metal and keep it truly progressive. I believe Tool fails to do that. They bore me!
Right now Lateralus is ranked 27 on the PA chart. I know they have a huge following. But I look at their place on the archives the same as Rhapsody, Nightwish, and Styx.
| Ahhh...enough said, the man is bored! Now, this makes all the difference...and I thought he was just pulling crap of his ass. No! the man has a point...Tool is "commercial radio/mtv/hot topic mall-core darlings from Sharon Osbourne's stable of dog and pony acts" driven...cause they bore him...and you know, that isnt really progressive! No,no,no...sure am glad people like him say this kind of holy truth, before I think I like them just because the music...no! There is a whole history of Sharon hot dogs pony mtv going on behind Tool! Tank you!
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