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Dean 
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:12 |
Is it just me, but have you noticed that DT studio albums alternate between " Oh, that's good!" and "oh dear, why?"
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cyberiancygnus
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:20 |
You will need to elaborate a little bit my friend 
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:28 |
Ah. Sorry, Forgot the starting point (US sales figures in brackets). Metropolis good (179,000+), Six Degrees heavy going (115,000+), Train of Thought good (143,000+), Octavarium a shade predictable (106,000+).
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:40 |
Sales figures aside, which I don't give a hoot. NO. The only album I was abit dissapoibnte with was Octavarium. LOVE the rest.
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:51 |
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Yeah, afraid I don't think that's true. They are a favorite of mine, and I simply don't think any of those releases are "Oh dear, why?"
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 19:57 |
 cyberiancygnus wrote:
You will need to elaborate a little bit my friend |
- As in: the albums alternate between awesome and crap.
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 21:29 |
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"oh everything is good"!!!!!!
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I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 21:31 |
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ermm... I mostly go for the "oh dear, why?" when I listen to DT (rarely if ever now adays)
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 22:10 |
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Well, Images and Words, doubleplus good, Awake, plusgood, Falling Into Infinity, plus ungood, Metropolis, plus good, Six Degrees, good, Train of Thought, ungood, Octavarium, good.
I don't really see a pattern.
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 22:12 |
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If you mean that half is good and half is bad...that's almost how I feel. I like Images, Scenes, Six Degrees, and Octavarium. Train of Thought and Falling into Infinity are true blunders. Awake is so-so.
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Posted: May 15 2007 at 23:32 |
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mmm... I dont know if there is a pattern... I mostly like their albums, except Awake for some reason, and Im really looking forward to Systematick (or... so) chaos...
As for record sales... I thought Octavarium did much better... in fact, I think those numbers are a bit too low... DT has sold more than 6 millon albums! Dont really think Scenes only (only?) sold 179,000 copies...
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 00:23 |
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So far they haven't had a completety bad albums
in some of their early albums there are several songs that I don't like much.
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 02:16 |
el böthy wrote:
mmm... I dont know if there is a pattern... I mostly like their albums, except Awake for some reason, and Im really looking forward to Systematick (or... so) chaos...
As for record sales... I thought Octavarium did much better... in fact, I think those numbers are a bit too low... DT has sold more than 6 millon albums! Dont really think Scenes only (only?) sold 179,000 copies...
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Their record company did a poor job at promoting them, but they couldn't get out of the contract. I think they will have much more success with Roadrunner. 
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 04:09 |
darqdean wrote:
Ah. Sorry, Forgot the starting point (US sales figures in brackets). Metropolis good (179,000+), Six Degrees heavy going (115,000+), Train of Thought good (143,000+), Octavarium a shade predictable (106,000+). |
Where did you get those numbers ? Are the worldwide sales also available ? I would be interested to take a look.
Edited by Bupie - May 16 2007 at 04:09
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 04:16 |
Bupie wrote:
darqdean wrote:
Ah. Sorry, Forgot the starting point (US sales figures in brackets). Metropolis good (179,000+), Six Degrees heavy going (115,000+), Train of Thought good (143,000+), Octavarium a shade predictable (106,000+). |
Where did you get those numbers ? Are the worldwide sales also available ? I would be interested to take a look. |
From wikipedia's DT discography entry, there were no worldwide sales figures
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 06:52 |
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To an extent with the last 6 albums I think your right. Awake was a very good album, but Falling Into Infinity was disappointing, then Scenes from a Memory was stunning. Six degrees wasnt all that good IMO, but I Train Of Thought was a real grower, and Octavarium was dreadful. So yeah, the last 6 albums have been all a bit up and down, but only Octavarium was really a bad album, with FII and SDOIT being merely a bit below par. The first two albums were both rather good.
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Posted: May 16 2007 at 07:00 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Their record company did a poor job at promoting them, but they couldn't get out of the contract. I think they will have much more success with Roadrunner.
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Roadrunner make me shudder at the moment when you look at their vacuum-cleaner approach to aquiring *new* bands (CoF, Nightwish, DragonForce, Within Temptation, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Megadeath, etc.)
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el böthy
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Posted: May 17 2007 at 20:36 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
el böthy wrote:
mmm... I dont know if there is a pattern... I mostly like their albums, except Awake for some reason, and Im really looking forward to Systematick (or... so) chaos...
As for record sales... I thought Octavarium did much better... in fact, I think those numbers are a bit too low... DT has sold more than 6 millon albums! Dont really think Scenes only (only?) sold 179,000 copies...
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Their record company did a poor job at promoting them, but they couldn't get out of the contract. I think they will have much more success with Roadrunner.
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Yes, that I know, and I think they will have more success too, they certainly deserve it! But what I said is that in the Score DVD they say they have sold over 6 million copies, so by now those numbers must have changed!!! I mean, they have 8 studio albums, a few live albums and recopilations (which both always sell less)... so those 8 studio albums must have sold more than 600,000 copies or so... of course some more than other. Isnt Images and words doble platinum? Aint that like 2 million copies... or was it 1 million? So if those numbers are like... from the year they came out, now they must be quite higher... I mean, again, Scenes must have sold at least 600,000 copies, though I think it´s way more than that!!!
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:05 |
I agree especially with the difference between Images and Words & Awake. Images and Words is like glorified Muzak keyboards with some shredding guitar and machine-gun drums added for good measure - a real travesty! Awake, on the other hand, is one of their best albums - ever!
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:29 |
el böthy wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
el böthy wrote:
mmm... I dont know if there is a pattern... I mostly like their albums, except Awake for some reason, and Im really looking forward to Systematick (or... so) chaos...
As for record sales... I thought Octavarium did much better... in fact, I think those numbers are a bit too low... DT has sold more than 6 millon albums! Dont really think Scenes only (only?) sold 179,000 copies...
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Their record company did a poor job at promoting them, but they couldn't get out of the contract. I think they will have much more success with Roadrunner.
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Yes, that I know, and I think they will have more success too, they certainly deserve it!
But what I said is that in the Score DVD they say they have sold over 6 million copies, so by now those numbers must have changed!!! I mean, they have 8 studio albums, a few live albums and recopilations (which both always sell less)... so those 8 studio albums must have sold more than 600,000 copies or so... of course some more than other. Isnt Images and words doble platinum? Aint that like 2 million copies... or was it 1 million? So if those numbers are like... from the year they came out, now they must be quite higher... I mean, again, Scenes must have sold at least 600,000 copies, though I think it´s way more than that!!!
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Dream Theater sell big in Europe, Asia and AFAIK also South America ... just not in the USA and Canada. Don't ask me why! 
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