Every Other Dream Theater CD
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Topic: Every Other Dream Theater CD
Posted By: Dean
Subject: Every Other Dream Theater CD
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:12
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Is it just me, but have you noticed that DT studio albums alternate between "Oh, that's good!" and "oh dear, why?"
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Posted By: cyberiancygnus
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:20
You will need to elaborate a little bit my friend
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:28
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Ah. Sorry, Forgot the starting point (US sales figures in brackets). Metropolis good (179,000+), Six Degrees heavy going (115,000+), Train of Thought good (143,000+), Octavarium a shade predictable (106,000+). ------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:40
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Sales figures aside, which I don't give a hoot. NO. The only album I was abit dissapoibnte with was Octavarium. LOVE the rest. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Yanns
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 18:51
| Yeah, afraid I don't think that's true. They are a favorite of mine, and I simply don't think any of those releases are "Oh dear, why?" |
Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 19:57
- As in: the albums alternate between awesome and crap. ------------- 
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cyberiancygnus wrote:Posted By: patomtz
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 21:29
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"oh everything is good"!!!!!! ------------- I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable 
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Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 21:31
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ermm... I mostly go for the "oh dear, why?" when I listen to DT (rarely if ever now adays) ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: kickflipthecat
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 22:10
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Well, Images and Words, doubleplus good, Awake, plusgood, Falling Into Infinity, plus ungood, Metropolis, plus good, Six Degrees, good, Train of Thought, ungood, Octavarium, good.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 22:12
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If you mean that half is good and half is bad...that's almost how I feel. I like Images, Scenes, Six Degrees, and Octavarium. Train of Thought and Falling into Infinity are true blunders. Awake is so-so. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 15 2007 at 23:32
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mmm... I dont know if there is a pattern... I mostly like their albums, except Awake for some reason, and Im really looking forward to Systematick (or... so) chaos... As for record sales... I thought Octavarium did much better... in fact, I think those numbers are a bit too low... DT has sold more than 6 millon albums! Dont really think Scenes only (only?) sold 179,000 copies... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 00:23
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So far they haven't had a completety bad albums
in some of their early albums there are several songs that I don't like much. ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 02:16
Their record company did a poor job at promoting them, but they couldn't get out of the contract. I think they will have much more success with Roadrunner.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: Bupie
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 04:09
Where did you get those numbers ? Are the worldwide sales also available ? I would be interested to take a look.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 04:16
From wikipedia's DT discography entry, there were no worldwide sales figures ------------- What? |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 06:52
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To an extent with the last 6 albums I think your right. Awake was a very good album, but Falling Into Infinity was disappointing, then Scenes from a Memory was stunning. Six degrees wasnt all that good IMO, but I Train Of Thought was a real grower, and Octavarium was dreadful. So yeah, the last 6 albums have been all a bit up and down, but only Octavarium was really a bad album, with FII and SDOIT being merely a bit below par. The first two albums were both rather good.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 16 2007 at 07:00
Roadrunner make me shudder at the moment when you look at their vacuum-cleaner approach to aquiring *new* bands (CoF, Nightwish, DragonForce, Within Temptation, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theater, Megadeath, etc.) ------------- What? |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 17 2007 at 20:36
Yes, that I know, and I think they will have more success too, they certainly deserve it! But what I said is that in the Score DVD they say they have sold over 6 million copies, so by now those numbers must have changed!!! I mean, they have 8 studio albums, a few live albums and recopilations (which both always sell less)... so those 8 studio albums must have sold more than 600,000 copies or so... of course some more than other. Isnt Images and words doble platinum? Aint that like 2 million copies... or was it 1 million? So if those numbers are like... from the year they came out, now they must be quite higher... I mean, again, Scenes must have sold at least 600,000 copies, though I think it´s way more than that!!! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:05
| I agree especially with the difference between Images and Words & Awake. Images and Words is like glorified Muzak keyboards with some shredding guitar and machine-gun drums added for good measure - a real travesty! Awake, on the other hand, is one of their best albums - ever! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:29
Dream Theater sell big in Europe, Asia and AFAIK also South America ... just not in the USA and Canada. Don't ask me why!  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 05:51
the RIAA Certification database only has Images and Words at Gold status.
No other CD has sold more than the required 500,000 copies. They have 2 gold (>50,000) and one platinum (>100,000) DVD's and 1 gold and 1 platinum DVD box set.
for conformation go here http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/default.asp - RIAA and search for Dream Theater. This of course only applies to US sales, there is no world-wide certification system, each country has their own and the numbers do not necessarily have to be 1,000,000 to get platinum, you only need to sell 30,000 in Finland to get a Platinum record.
/edit - if a DVD went platinum, it also qualified for gold, the DVD Box set is the Images & Words box set. ------------- What? |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:10
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Thanks, but unfortunatly there are no numbers... I want numberrrrrrrrrrssssssss
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:17
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what you want and what you get ...
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 18 2007 at 12:24
I think the numbers on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Theater_discography - Wiki Discography generally stack up with the overall 6 million world-wide figures - a quick adding up gives about 2 million total in the US, factor in a similar number for Europe and again for South America + the rest of the world and that sort of gets you 6 million, (probably). ------------- What? |