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Poll Question: Which of these bands is your fave?
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    Posted: June 22 2007 at 20:31
THIS is a list(the first) of jazz metal bands,please comment

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I don't think you should call these lists "jazz metal". Some of the groups could be classified as such, but even as a generalization, it's just too much of a poor description. You've got a mix of tech, progressive, and jazz-metal bands in there.
Maybe i'm nitpicking though

Anyway, for this poll i'll have to vote Cynic. There are some impressive bands up there, but Cynic outshines them all.
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EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway!
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The vote goes for Cynic it seems, but I will go for Ephel Duath.  The Painter's Palette is one of my favourite albums.  The mixing of extreme and clean vocals was amazing, as well as the overall musicianship., Unfortunately the clean vocals were missing in Pain Necessary To Know.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:08
Mark,almost all of the bands in this list are in the archives(quite a few added by the ever hard-working PMT ClapEmbarrassed),so this can go in Prog Polls.

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I would have a hard time choosing if Cynic wasn't on the list,but Cynic practically invented this type of music,and is the ONLY choice.


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Cynic definitely. Why isn't Atheist an option? Together, these two bands were really the first to blend jazz and extreme metal, which resulted in the death metal scene leaping forward in sophistication. Without these two bands, it's unlikely that even the mighty Death would have started making jazz death gems like Human and their magnum opus Sound of Perserverance.
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I know Cynic are are thought of as jazz metal but that's always seemed odd to me in that they don't really incorporate jazz into the equasion except in the most tangential way.   As well, Don Cab is Math Rock through and through, and Behold the Arctopus is Extreme-Tech. The artists that truly fuse jazz elements and metal would be Counter-World Experience, Planet X, and Sleep Terror among others.








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Is this related to that article in the LA Times? Is it?
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I didn't know there was such a thing.
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 30 2007 at 23:35
Yeah, it was kind of interesting; mentioned Zappa and that dude from the Mahavishnu Orchestra (John MacLongawang or whatever), but no mention of Bobby Fripp! I find that criminal, since the phrase was "heavy metal jazz" was invented for the mid seventies Crimso period.
 
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I think many of these bands more as technical prog, math metal, whatever, but not really as much jazz metal (there are a few though).  When I think of Jazz Metal, I think of Planet X.
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One of the bands on the list is as close to jazz/metal as you can get without being named Cynic,and it's the instrumental outfit Continuo Renacer.

Check them out guys,AWESOME STUFF!!!!!!!!


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Originally posted by asimplemistake asimplemistake wrote:

I think many of these bands more as technical prog, math metal, whatever, but not really as much jazz metal (there are a few though).  When I think of Jazz Metal, I think of Planet X.
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Can't vote, as the first band to do it ain't there.  Atheist.  Death-jazz.   LOL
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Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

Originally posted by asimplemistake asimplemistake wrote:

I think many of these bands more as technical prog, math metal, whatever, but not really as much jazz metal (there are a few though).  When I think of Jazz Metal, I think of Planet X.
me too LOL
 
I don't  think Planet X is central to this sub genre of jazz rock fusion, however, they are within the accepted boundaries. Agree with others that some of the bands named are on the basis of extremely liberal interpretations - I bought a Spiral Archetectural album on the basis of a previous thread on this subject, and still trying to spot the jazz - above average guitarwork doesn't necessarily equate to jazz: do they improv? Instead I see reference points being for instance Panzerballett, Heavy Metal Jazz Concepts, Shaun Baxter, Jonas Hellborg's e and No Other World projects, a lot  of Niacin, some of Gongzilla (e.g. their second album with Gary Husband providing to heavy edge), some of Firemerchants (several tracks on Landlords of Atlantis), Conrad Schrenk's Extravanganza, Steve Clarke's Network. Alkemy, Liquid Tension Experiment makes it too. On the basis of the recent live Jazz Pistols' album , I hear them as mainstream jazz rock fusion, and not particularly heavy nor metally.
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I'll go with Ephel Duath..

Edited by Matteo - July 31 2007 at 08:36
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