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Poll Question: Jazz or Classical?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:26
That's subjective.

The melody could be out of this world, and incredibly expressive.

And the improv. might sound silly and disjointed.

Ya never know...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:24
Originally posted by yesman1972 yesman1972 wrote:

Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.
 
I think improvisation is the highest form of human expression. I don't think you can reach a very high level of human expression by reading a sheet of paper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:13
i love classical and have a hard time getting into jazz.  There's some jazz i like, but classical wins out by a lot for me.  Brucker's Symphony 8 is better than any prog epic i've heard
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:36
Originally posted by yesman1972 yesman1972 wrote:

Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.


"Classical music is a dead fish" - Brian Eno

"Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:31
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

First of all, this is not a prog poll.
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

I think that there are some classical pieces that beat any jazz, but overall jazz is better (like a random jazz song is better than a random classical piece more often)
What is that supposed to mean? If you picked a classical song out of a hat, it would be worse than any jazz song you picked out of a hat more often? How can you follow that as a rule? And that is 100% subjective.


Jazz and Classical are related to prog, and Prog Related is a bonified sub-genre on this website, so the poll is fine here, get the stick outta yer ass.

And that a random jazz piece is usually better than a classical piece is my opinion, I don't mean it as something that should be understood, I was just clarifying that I think jazz is better overall. Don't be so literal, aight?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:27
i love them both, but I have to say classical.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:23
Classical and Jazz were both two of my first loves in music, and currently I'm mainly a classical musician but I still venture into jazz occasionally and would like to play more of it.
That being said, I voted classical. I prefer mainly modern, 20th century and romantic classical. The energy of many pieces that involve several hundred people playing is difficult to match with 3-10 jazz musicians, and I prefer the concrete sense of direction and concept that classical music displays for the listener. I still like jazz very much, but Coltrane and Davis haven't impacted me as much as Shostakovitch and Vaughan Williams have. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:45
Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

I much prefer jazz influenced music like early MAGMA

Yes but after the first 2 albums, the jazz left almost entirely. It was only at Udu Wudu and Attahk that traces of it returned.

MDK, Wurdah Itah, Khontarkosz, and K.A (to a lesser degree) were all EXTREMELY influeced by 20th Century classical music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:42
Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:33
I like both, but i have to go with classical. my favourite is the romantic era, although i do really admire the freedom jazz can offer. however, much of classical music revolved around improv, and composers like beethoven and bach were both renowned for their improvisational skills. i feel that it is mainly classical purists nowadays that put the restraints on what defines classical.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:58
I much prefer jazz influenced music like early MAGMA and ZAO to the classical flavour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:19
someone put a classical sub genre list. so ill type out a jazz one
 
bebop
cool jazz
swing
avant-garde jazz
free jazz
hard bop
traditional
jazz-fusion
jazz-funk
rock-jazz
dixieland
latin jazz
modal jazz
acid jazz
smooth jazz (as much as i hate to include it in such a list)
jazz blues
gypsy jazz
bossa nova
calypso jazz
and so on and so on.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:12
i went with jazz, but i, too, love classical
 
btw this topic could get ugly...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:56
I love Jazz, but I like Classical as well.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:50

Jazz probably, since it's closer to my taste in prog.

But there are some wonderful Classical melodies!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:34
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:15
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Jazz Fusion...I don't like jazz. In relation to the poll...I choose jazz because there was freedom and experimentation in it. Classical was too rigid
I would agree with you generally speaking, but classical became VERY free and experimental in the 20th century losing much of the rigidity from earlier times. Check out Arnold Schoenberg, Anton Webern, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Pierre Boulez, and of course John Cage, who challenged the very definiton of music with his works.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:06
Gotta go with classical but by the slightest of margins. I am a classically-trained percussionist, but I enjoy both jazz and classical tremendously and have played both live. Some of the most fun I've had was performing classical works that had a jazz influence such as Still's Afro-Anerican Symphony, Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, Gershwin's Catfish Row, and Grofe's Grand Canyon Suite.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 11:29
I'm going to have to go with Jazz. It's not that I don't like classical, I just find that in relation, I listen to Jazz more.

Now if it was Jazz/Fusion Vs. Symphonic Prog, that would be a different (and harder) story.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 09:00
should be in polls not prog polls shouldn't it ? Smile
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