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darkshade 
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 14:59 |
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Where do you see music (mainstream or prog or jazz or whatever) going in the next 5-10 years?
personally, i could barely care about mainstream music since it's been on a giant downward spiral since mid-70's. prog i can see coming to a new golden era, same with jazz. in the last few years there has been more great music made than in the last 10 years. i also see a new wave of jazz unfolding, bigger than anything since the jazz-rock days of the 70s.
what are your opinions and views?
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:38 |
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Well, from my point of view, there is no prerequisite for a new golden era of prog. Prog is on the brink of losing its "progressiveness", its beauty and individuality.
Nevertheless, there are a few bands nowadays, who rescue prog from being dull and primitive, e.g. Oceansize, Dredg, Ritual, Coheed And Cambria, IZZ and so on. The main thing that they really try to make prog be a progressive genre, not a regressive one, they experiment - and that's the thing I've always looked forward to noticing in prog music.
I do hope Prog will take the right direction for the next decade, though.
Edited by Paper Champion - March 27 2008 at 15:39
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:47 |
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Prog itself, though not exactly regressive, have in many cases picked up good stuff from the past. Making new things isn't what's most crucial in my book. As long as prog mixes a lot of both old, new and contemporary from many different genres into an INTERESTING end result I see no problem at all in the making of a bright future for this kind of music.
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:58 |
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I predict we'll be listening to a new genre called zunk. it'll be
a new blend of R&B, rock, hip hop, country music and it will save
the dying record industry
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laplace
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:00 |
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*giggles* and everyone will claim that King Crimson are proto-zunk
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:01 |
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BroSpence
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:20 |
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It seems to be that there is going to be a lot of crossing over in the next several years. Since everyone has pretty much done everything already collaborating or experimenting with other styles seems to be the thing to do. Or just branching out stylistically from the comfort zone.
As far as mainstream music goes (radio played bands and such), I honestly believe its in the worst possible state. All thats ever on is Nickleback type bands, Fall Out Boy, Paramore, Panic at the Disco (which are all basically the same). I mean less than 10 years ago there were songs on the radio you could at least enjoy. New artists that actually were good and getting airplay. Now there is nothing. I don't see it improving.
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darkshade
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:38 |
 BroSpence wrote:
It seems to be that there is going to be a lot of crossing over in the next several years. Since everyone has pretty much done everything already collaborating or experimenting with other styles seems to be the thing to do. Or just branching out stylistically from the comfort zone.
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interesting you say that. i was going to bring up the fact that no new genre of music has come out of the woodwork in quite some time (at least a good, respectable genre). maybe it's true, there's nothing left to do except mix other styles into one. but then again i'd bet lots of money to say that musicians were saying that 200 years ago. maybe time will tell...
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:46 |
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I think things will keep getting even more and more exclusive. As in there will one day be so many rediculous sub-genres that we'll have to use some sort of newspeak just to name them all. But seriously, I think that applies to just about everything.
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:46 |
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I suspect the surface has barely been scratched
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 27 2008 at 19:20 |
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I predict all music will become extinct on February 30, 2066.
Some may think me crazy for predicting this, but then you'd be absolutely right.
Edited by Slartibartfast - March 27 2008 at 19:22
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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The T
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 00:42 |
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The music itself will change a little... it's the format that will cause the real change: the demise of hard copies and the victory of mp3 and the ipod will cause artists to focus more on songs than on albums... therefore, the mainstream side will have less and less albums as songs will be enough. Only more music-oriented genres like metal, prog, jazz, etc, will continue to have albums, as coherent collection of songs... it will all depend on the internet for the ultimate survival or death of prog and darker genres... meanwhile, gangsters will get rich by continue to call women bitches and talking about cars and golden teeth, rock will once again dissapear as emo punk dies and another awful form will re-surface a few years later, every time weaker as every time less people hear rock as the mainstream rap culture continues to widen, so in 15 years rock will only survive if it's produced by Timbaland and played by Timberlake. We will be dinosaurs, and we'll be happy to be that.
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darkshade
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:39 |
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i dont think rock will die. at least not real rock. but then again what is real rock. your basic rock music has been mixed and melded and twisted with other genre's or styles so much in the last 40-50 years that "rock" by itself is not a genre, unless it's rock n' roll from the 50's.
so rock wont just die out. too many people still listen to rock. it WILL, however, transform, for better or worse, into a new style of music, just like jazz.
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:43 |
The T wrote:
music-oriented genres like metal, prog, jazz |
explain
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darkshade
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:45 |
laplace wrote:
The T wrote:
music-oriented genres like metal, prog, jazz |
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i kind of know what laplace means. although some metal bands are NOT music oriented. they're death metal oriented, black metal oriented, etc. (In other words, unoriginal)
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:50 |
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The return of yacht rock...
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darren
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 00:27 |
I think radio will totally degenerate even further .
There will be classic rock stations very much like the radio stations now, just the same songs from the same artists with the occasional surprise thrown in; an obscure one hit wonder or rare 'b' side. Young people listening will be surprised Lynyrd Skynyrd did more than three songs. This will be mostly aimed at an audience that still remembers playing vinyl or a tape. The only addition to a play list will be songs of people who have been dead for twenty years.
Country will continue to be "new country" and will be pretty much pop music with banjos and steel guitars. This will be aimed at those in the small towns and rural areas. Nothing challenging. Nothing remotely offensive.
Pop will be aimed at the usual preteen to teen crowd with a few stations playing the adult contemporary variant for people in their status mobiles and minivans. This stuff is formulaic and it will be a producer's game. Boy bands and girl bands will come and go along with studio music featuring a revolving door of singers.
The real exciting, progressive and innovative music will be found on the internet. Things are going this way and I think it will expand. Bands will sell their music for a low price or free. There will be a mail order for those who want a hard copy. Bands will no longer sign with big labels as there will be no need. Their livelihood will depend on live shows and merchandise like t-shirts. This is also where the innovation will come as far as getting music out there. On top of today's youtube, face book and my space, I think something new and different will develop. I have heard there is already starting a sort of music drop (hey, if this is old news, give me a break, I am over 40), where people burn a disc and leave it somewhere public for someone to find like a bench in a train station. The finder will listen and if there's anything they like, the disc also contains band info and website. The finder then passes it on to friends or leaves the disc somewhere public for the next person to find.
There is also a singer songwriter who will take donations to pay for her studio time. For a small donation, you get free mp3's of some of the songs. Larger donations will get you the entire album on mp3, autographed advanced copies of the cd, a t-shirt or even get to be in a special preview concert of the songs before she records the album. I think the highest donation actually gets you mentioned in a song that's yet to be written. I forget
her name off hand but I did see her performance on youtube and she's very good.
Music isn't dying, it's morphing into something else that is in its infancy and it's already scaring the heck out of the current music industry that doesn't know how to change with the times and will be mostly obsolete.
Edited by darren - March 29 2008 at 00:33
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 00:31 |
darren wrote:
I have heard there is already starting a sort of music drop (hey, if this is old news, give me a break, I am over 40), where people burn a disc and leave it somewhere public for someone to find like a bench in a train station. The finder will listen and if there's anything they like, the disc also contains band info and website. The finder then passes it on to friends or leaves the disc somewhere public for the next person to find. obsolete.
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I will begin doing this now. 
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The T
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 02:22 |
laplace wrote:
The T wrote:
music-oriented genres like metal, prog, jazz |
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Kind of poorly put. What I meant was, genres where the artists put emphasis in the creation of their music and not so much in how many damn million albums they can sell....even if it's bad music, it's music more oriented towards the creative side than to the industry side... those are the ones that will continue to create albums...
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MusicForSpeedin
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Posted: March 31 2008 at 20:18 |
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Well I don't know about all music
but as for Hip Hop Mos Def said something that makes a lot of sense
People ask, "What is gonna happen to hip hop?"
To which Mos Def replies, "Whatever is happening with us (the people, culture, world). If we smoked out hip hop is gonna be smoked out. If we be doin' alright hip hop is gonna be doing alright. People talk about hip hop like it's some giant livin in the hill side; coming down to visit the towns people. We are hip hop. Me, you, everybody...hip hop is going where we are going. Next time you ask yourself where hip hop is going, ask yourself where you are going. You get a clear idea."
that could probably be true about most music. Jazz and Hip Hop mixed together ismaking a splash. It just seems a lot of people don't know about it yet.
Pioneers for jazz and hip hop
Mos Def, Chris "daddy" Dave (sickest drummer I have ever heard), Robert Glasper
here are some amazing videos
maiden voyage(herbie hancock)/everything in its right place(radiohead)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZLRAb6d69s&feature=related
Beyonce is in on it too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dur71QRV36M
Edited by MusicForSpeedin - March 31 2008 at 20:20
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