The Future of Music (Next 5-10 Years)
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Topic: The Future of Music (Next 5-10 Years)
Posted By: darkshade
Subject: The Future of Music (Next 5-10 Years)
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 14:59
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Where do you see music (mainstream or prog or jazz or whatever) going in the next 5-10 years? personally, i could barely care about mainstream music since it's been on a giant downward spiral since mid-70's. prog i can see coming to a new golden era, same with jazz. in the last few years there has been more great music made than in the last 10 years. i also see a new wave of jazz unfolding, bigger than anything since the jazz-rock days of the 70s. what are your opinions and views? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Paper Champion
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:38
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Well, from my point of view, there is no prerequisite for a new golden era of prog. Prog is on the brink of losing its "progressiveness", its beauty and individuality. Nevertheless, there are a few bands nowadays, who rescue prog from being dull and primitive, e.g. Oceansize, Dredg, Ritual, Coheed And Cambria, IZZ and so on. The main thing that they really try to make prog be a progressive genre, not a regressive one, they experiment - and that's the thing I've always looked forward to noticing in prog music. I do hope Prog will take the right direction for the next decade, though. |
Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:47
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Prog itself, though not exactly regressive, have in many cases picked up good stuff from the past. Making new things isn't what's most crucial in my book. As long as prog mixes a lot of both old, new and contemporary from many different genres into an INTERESTING end result I see no problem at all in the making of a bright future for this kind of music.
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Posted By: Purplefloyd
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 15:58
| I predict we'll be listening to a new genre called zunk. it'll be a new blend of R&B, rock, hip hop, country music and it will save the dying record industry |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:00
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*giggles* and everyone will claim that King Crimson are proto-zunk
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:01
^ 
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:20
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It seems to be that there is going to be a lot of crossing over in the next several years. Since everyone has pretty much done everything already collaborating or experimenting with other styles seems to be the thing to do. Or just branching out stylistically from the comfort zone. As far as mainstream music goes (radio played bands and such), I honestly believe its in the worst possible state. All thats ever on is Nickleback type bands, Fall Out Boy, Paramore, Panic at the Disco (which are all basically the same). I mean less than 10 years ago there were songs on the radio you could at least enjoy. New artists that actually were good and getting airplay. Now there is nothing. I don't see it improving. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:38
interesting you say that. i was going to bring up the fact that no new genre of music has come out of the woodwork in quite some time (at least a good, respectable genre). maybe it's true, there's nothing left to do except mix other styles into one. but then again i'd bet lots of money to say that musicians were saying that 200 years ago. maybe time will tell... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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BroSpence wrote:Posted By: xenuwantsyou
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:46
| I think things will keep getting even more and more exclusive. As in there will one day be so many rediculous sub-genres that we'll have to use some sort of newspeak just to name them all. But seriously, I think that applies to just about everything. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 16:46
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I suspect the surface has barely been scratched |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 27 2008 at 19:20
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I predict all music will become extinct on February 30, 2066. Some may think me crazy for predicting this, but then you'd be absolutely right. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 28 2008 at 00:42
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The music itself will change a little... it's the format that will cause the real change: the demise of hard copies and the victory of mp3 and the ipod will cause artists to focus more on songs than on albums... therefore, the mainstream side will have less and less albums as songs will be enough. Only more music-oriented genres like metal, prog, jazz, etc, will continue to have albums, as coherent collection of songs... it will all depend on the internet for the ultimate survival or death of prog and darker genres... meanwhile, gangsters will get rich by continue to call women bitches and talking about cars and golden teeth, rock will once again dissapear as emo punk dies and another awful form will re-surface a few years later, every time weaker as every time less people hear rock as the mainstream rap culture continues to widen, so in 15 years rock will only survive if it's produced by Timbaland and played by Timberlake. We will be dinosaurs, and we'll be happy to be that. ------------- 
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:39
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i dont think rock will die. at least not real rock. but then again what is real rock. your basic rock music has been mixed and melded and twisted with other genre's or styles so much in the last 40-50 years that "rock" by itself is not a genre, unless it's rock n' roll from the 50's. so rock wont just die out. too many people still listen to rock. it WILL, however, transform, for better or worse, into a new style of music, just like jazz. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:43
explain ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:45
i kind of know what laplace means. although some metal bands are NOT music oriented. they're death metal oriented, black metal oriented, etc. (In other words, unoriginal) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 28 2008 at 13:50
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The return of yacht rock...
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: darren
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 00:27
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I think radio will totally degenerate even further .
There will be classic rock stations very much like the radio stations now, just the same songs from the same artists with the occasional surprise thrown in; an obscure one hit wonder or rare 'b' side. Young people listening will be surprised Lynyrd Skynyrd did more than three songs. This will be mostly aimed at an audience that still remembers playing vinyl or a tape. The only addition to a play list will be songs of people who have been dead for twenty years.
Country will continue to be "new country" and will be pretty much pop music with banjos and steel guitars. This will be aimed at those in the small towns and rural areas. Nothing challenging. Nothing remotely offensive.
Pop will be aimed at the usual preteen to teen crowd with a few stations playing the adult contemporary variant for people in their status mobiles and minivans. This stuff is formulaic and it will be a producer's game. Boy bands and girl bands will come and go along with studio music featuring a revolving door of singers.
The real exciting, progressive and innovative music will be found on the internet. Things are going this way and I think it will expand. Bands will sell their music for a low price or free. There will be a mail order for those who want a hard copy. Bands will no longer sign with big labels as there will be no need. Their livelihood will depend on live shows and merchandise like t-shirts. This is also where the innovation will come as far as getting music out there. On top of today's youtube, face book and my space, I think something new and different will develop. I have heard there is already starting a sort of music drop (hey, if this is old news, give me a break, I am over 40), where people burn a disc and leave it somewhere public for someone to find like a bench in a train station. The finder will listen and if there's anything they like, the disc also contains band info and website. The finder then passes it on to friends or leaves the disc somewhere public for the next person to find.
There is also a singer songwriter who will take donations to pay for her studio time. For a small donation, you get free mp3's of some of the songs. Larger donations will get you the entire album on mp3, autographed advanced copies of the cd, a t-shirt or even get to be in a special preview concert of the songs before she records the album. I think the highest donation actually gets you mentioned in a song that's yet to be written. I forget
her name off hand but I did see her performance on youtube and she's very good.
Music isn't dying, it's morphing into something else that is in its infancy and it's already scaring the heck out of the current music industry that doesn't know how to change with the times and will be mostly obsolete.
------------- "they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world. the fools they locked up the wrong man." - Leonard Cohen |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 00:31
I will begin doing this now.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 02:22
Kind of poorly put. What I meant was, genres where the artists put emphasis in the creation of their music and not so much in how many damn million albums they can sell....even if it's bad music, it's music more oriented towards the creative side than to the industry side... those are the ones that will continue to create albums... -------------
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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 20:18
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Well I don't know about all music but as for Hip Hop Mos Def said something that makes a lot of sense People ask, "What is gonna happen to hip hop?" To which Mos Def replies, "Whatever is happening with us (the people, culture, world). If we smoked out hip hop is gonna be smoked out. If we be doin' alright hip hop is gonna be doing alright. People talk about hip hop like it's some giant livin in the hill side; coming down to visit the towns people. We are hip hop. Me, you, everybody...hip hop is going where we are going. Next time you ask yourself where hip hop is going, ask yourself where you are going. You get a clear idea." that could probably be true about most music. Jazz and Hip Hop mixed together ismaking a splash. It just seems a lot of people don't know about it yet. Pioneers for jazz and hip hop Mos Def, Chris "daddy" Dave (sickest drummer I have ever heard), Robert Glasper here are some amazing videos maiden voyage(herbie hancock)/everything in its right place(radiohead) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZLRAb6d69s&feature=related Beyonce is in on it too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dur71QRV36M |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 20:40
brilliant, true of Prog as well |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 21:53
Aw c'mon T, DT will still be putting out albums, and Petrucci will be modeling the latest in guitar virtuoso lounge wear. I just read in Exclaim ! (a canadian alternative mag, that Google has launched a service in CHina where if you use the search engine, all you need to do is sign in, and you can access music (MP3s) from all the major labels in China for free. It is ad supported, but it is the paradigm shift that many have been pushing for years as to how to monetize the new reality (i.e. P2P, Internet downloads et al). (I summarized an interview they had with Gerd Leonhard. Check their website Exlaim.ca) How long before it hits our side of the world ? Who Knows ? But you can start to see the day coming when any band can upload their music on to the net for access through a portal or subscription service (no, not "renting, but owning and being able to burn it or transfer it to an Ipod) for download by the music loving public. Then the hard work begins. Getting people to listen to your music, and building your fanbase one at a time (or more). An embarrassment of riches, maybe, but then it'll be establishing new "filters" to replace Radio, MTV (actually already gone re : Music), TV, magazines etc. Sites like PA and others will end up playing a big role. The reason - fans of music sharing their recommendations/tastes/treasures/finds. As already happens. In fact, if it wasn't for the T, I still would not have plans to eventually someday maybe buy a Dream Theater album. Once I get through writing these short missives from the mental wasteland. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 21:55
Well, others have put their weenie on the line before - Homer Simpson resolutely stated that it was a known fact that rock reached its' perfect state in 1974. And has anyone proven him wrong ? ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 22:02
Bro, every generation sends their own heroes up the charts; and every generation laments the passing of "good" music. Less than ten years ago, we had emo, pop punk, boy bands, Britney clones, and the last remains of the grunge movement; and not to forget the ascent of contemporary country, along with other fleeting musical genres. The good stuff stuck around, the rest disappeared after its' 3 minutes of fame. And as far as your lumping of the above bands, you sound like those folks who can't tell the difference between Gabriel era Genesis, Yes, Marillion, Grobschnitt, Eloy et al. If you don't like, say so. I don't care for any of them, but I don't see much of a commonality apart from some commercial success. Oops, maybe that's their crime ! Or you could read some negative posts from old fogies complaining that there is no such thing as prog metal. When they're really just trying no to admit they can't stand loud guitars. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 22:09
You mean people still are able to sell millions of records. Let's see ... the RIAA certified some 800 & something gold & platinum records in 1997 to about 370 last year. And of course, many of those are back catalogue (Rush's Caress of Steel is still barreling towards Diamond status  )Sales mean nothing. Ever heard an industry insider say that an album shipped platinum and sold gold ? Or that a double album sold is considered two sales. The Eagles' latest (which I own & Like & whole heartedly recommend to any one who enjoyed Hotel California or the Long Run) has sold about 2.7 million in the U.S. .. As it runs close to 100 minutes the RIAA considers it a double album and by some strange logic has certified it seven times platinum  And as for quality, again sales mean nothing. Some commercially successful stuff is good and even great. A lot isn't. But the same can be said for music that hasn't made the same mainstream impact. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 31 2008 at 22:12
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The chinese have a saying - those who make predictions don't know anything. And those who know anything don't make predictions. (he said as he checked his two way Dick Tracy wrist watch, while he waited for his sky car to respond)
------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: reality
Date Posted: April 03 2008 at 13:58
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There is a difference with today’s youth, than say in the 70's. Today's youth have options that grab at their meager attention spans, like we could not believe when we were young. Say a child gets a guitar and to be a great musician he has to practice many hours over the next few years. In the 60's-70's that was a difficult enough feat to accomplish without the technological distractions of today, but imagine that now with 300 channel TV, X Box, Playstation, Nintendo, Internet Etc... An example of this is TV in itself; In the States network nightly news used to have huge ratings and the anchors were star celebrities. They were the most trusted word on everything, and that is where most of I hope someone sees my point, I had two things I could do on a laid back Saturday afternoon, help my mother cook dinner or practice my Piano. If I were a youth today, with all the options that are designed to tempt my time, I would not be practicing my Piano.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 03 2008 at 14:19
| The future of music business: most independent labels get closed due to uncontrolled downloads; major artists abandon their major labels working on INRAINBOWS scheme (free mp3 for everybody/pricy set for fans); minor artists earn their living by live shows or full-time jobs which leads to rare releases; "MySpace bedroom bands" with cheaply recorded and produced material (usually awful in songwriting issues) spoil the taste of a casual listener; Britney Spears sings with Thom Yorke; Jonsi from Sigur Ros writes for advertisement promos only; Mike Portnoy releases his 4th solo hip-hop album. Decide for yourself which is true and which is not |