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verslibre

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 20:38

First full-blown prog = KC's ItCotCK.

IMO.

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Posted: July 13 2011 at 22:11

ExittheLemming wrote:

[QUOTE=Valarius]

Anthing that came before this could be classed as 'Proto-Prog' or 'Pre-Prog' or whatever you want to call it.

By that logic... what about Operation: Mindcrime?

edit: I have no idea what just happened.

Edited by Mushroom Sword - July 14 2011 at 14:27

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 09:18

First prog album to me was "Tubular Bells"...I bought the "Boxed" set (on vinyl) when I was 12 and "moonlight shadow" was all over the radio.

I wanted to know more about this guy so I bought a compilation with excerpts from which i liked "Tubular" the most and then got this set.

I heard this stuff over and over, all of his first four albums plzus the "bonus" LP. Songs like "Star's end" puzzled me a lot, but I got into "tubular" immediately but found "Ommadawn" the most pleasant surprise of all Smile

Edited by Rock'n'Rollmops - November 06 2015 at 09:20

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 09:31

There is no such thing. Prog gradually evolved; it is useless to name a single album.

If pressed I would however vote this:

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:02

Dean

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:15

Rock'n'Rollmops wrote:

First prog album to me was "Tubular Bells"...I bought the "Boxed" set (on vinyl) when I was 12 and "moonlight shadow" was all over the radio.

I wanted to know more about this guy so I bought a compilation with excerpts from which i liked "Tubular" the most and then got this set.

I heard this stuff over and over, all of his first four albums plzus the "bonus" LP. Songs like "Star's end" puzzled me a lot, but I got into "tubular" immediately but found "Ommadawn" the most pleasant surprise of all Smile

Dean wrote:

As interesting as tangents are... they are better discussed in a thread for that subject, like here:

Your first Prog album?

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:16

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dr wu23

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:42

A 4 year old thread resurrected.......I think this specific topic has been beaten to death.

Besides...everyone knows that the first real prog album (and not proto prog..) was ITCOTCK.

Edited by dr wu23 - November 06 2015 at 10:43

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 10:50

dr wu23 wrote:

A 4 year old thread resurrected.......I think this specific topic has been beaten to death.

Besides...everyone knows that the first real prog album (and not proto prog..) was ITCOTCK.

If you read reviews from 1969 for that album you will see it is constantly compared to the Moodies, Procol Harum and The Nice. The first 'real' progressive rock album is Uncle Meat.

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Cosmiclawnmower View Drop Down

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:01

Dean wrote:

Dean wrote:

As interesting as tangents are... they are better discussed in a thread for that subject, like here:

Your first Prog album?

C'mon give the guy a break, they've only just joined, misread the topic and just wanted to say something to introduce themselves... maybe a friendly 'Hi, welcome.. maybe you'd like to go the introductions thread and tell us a bit about yourself ?' it sounds a lot more friendly to a newcomer! Wink

.. and yes, this topic has been well and truly fried to death LOL

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:21

zravkapt wrote:

dr wu23 wrote:

A 4 year old thread resurrected.......I think this specific topic has been beaten to death.

Besides...everyone knows that the first real prog album (and not proto prog..) was ITCOTCK.

If you read reviews from 1969 for that album you will see it is constantly compared to the Moodies, Procol Harum and The Nice. (...)

Re English prog, you forget Family's Music In A Doll's House from 1968

Edited by Svetonio - November 06 2015 at 11:23

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:26

Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

.. and yes, this topic has been well and truly fried to death LOL

*shrug* All I did was copy a post I made in this thread some 4½ years ago because I noticed it contained a link were he (and anyone else) could post details of their first prog album. Personally, I'm not a gregarious person so it never occurs to me to want to suggest that people introduce themselves, but if that kind of thing appeals to you then perhaps you should have taken the initiative and asked that yourself instead of berating me for my inept attempt to be helpful and informative.

The floor is all yours... Smile

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timothy leary View Drop Down

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:43

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:48

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Svetonio

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:52

timothy leary wrote:

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

No, entire catalogue is not necessary; full album YouTube video of Family's debut from 1968 is quite enough to prove that ItCotCK is not the first English prog album

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:53

timothy leary wrote:

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

I don't know, do you think anyone on this site is mad enough to do that?

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:57

emigre80 wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

I don't know, do you think anyone on this site is mad enough to do that?

Fortunately posting full albums in as a single youtube video is not permitted here so no one would be daft enough to do that as that may result in them being punished.

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dr wu23

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 11:59

zravkapt wrote:

dr wu23 wrote:

A 4 year old thread resurrected.......I think this specific topic has been beaten to death.

Besides...everyone knows that the first real prog album (and not proto prog..) was ITCOTCK.

If you read reviews from 1969 for that album you will see it is constantly compared to the Moodies, Procol Harum and The Nice. The first 'real' progressive rock album is Uncle Meat.

And that means the reviewers didn't know what they were talking about.

And I for one have never considered Uncle Meat by Zappa progressive rock per se...but I know some do.

Edited by dr wu23 - November 06 2015 at 12:02

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dr wu23

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 12:01

Svetonio wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

No, entire catalogue is not necessary; full album YouTube video of Family's debut from 1968 is quite enough to prove that ItCotCK is not the first English prog album

That's not prog rock, but psych rock..... but then you always get these things wrong anyway.

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Svetonio

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Posted: November 06 2015 at 12:11

dr wu23 wrote:

Svetonio wrote:

timothy leary wrote:

Could someone post the entire discography of Family, song by song from you tube?

No, entire catalogue is not necessary; full album YouTube video of Family's debut from 1968 is quite enough to prove that ItCotCK is not the first English prog album

That's not prog rock, but psych rock..... but then you always get these things wrong anyway.

Thank you for "info", but I still have a pair of ears. In the Court of the Crimson King is the best 60s prog album, but not the first one. Sorry for that.

Oh and 21 Century Shizoid Man is a heavy psych song, not prog; I Talk To The Wind is a (great) pop song.

So, ItCotCK is not even a "full-blown" prog album. Hardly you'll find a "full-blown" prog album in 60s - except Zappa's 60s albums which are full-blown prog without a question.

Edited by Svetonio - November 07 2015 at 07:47

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