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    Posted: March 07 2011 at 12:34
Same as the under-appreciated Guitarists thread nominate the keyboardists you think have slipped under the radar a bit too much.

For me Mathew Fisher from Procol Harum is a criminally under-appreciated Hammond player. His subtle touch just makes Procol Harum's music magical.

and of course Rick Wright (RIP) was an incredible player who was often forgotten


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Snce you didn't say underated I'll offer a response. Laszlo Benko of Omega fame. Next to guitar players keyboard players are a dime a dozen. You have to be exceptional. 
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Snce you didn't say underated I'll offer a response. Laszlo Benko of Omega fame. Next to guitar players keyboard players are a dime a dozen. You have to be exceptional. 

would it be the grammar or word you took issue with?Wink
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Hi,
 
Rick Wright for sure ... you ought to take a couple of PF pieces into Ableton Live, or another DAW, and then mute some of the parts and just listen to Rick by himself ... it's excellent.
 
The Falk U Rogner (I've always wondered if the name is fake!) for Amon Duul 2 is fabulous, and gets the least amount of credit for than anyone else in the band  ... and that person all did all the early art work which is magnificent.
 
The keyboard player/s for Ange ... in the early days, and there were 2 of them.
 
Keyboards for PFM are out of this world in the first 5 albums
 
Keyboards for Banco ... are ... not even saying it!
 
Too many ... way too many ... when we only listen to the top ten ... you gotta listen to the bottom ten in order to find the true gems.
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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:


For me Mathew Fisher from Procol Harum is a criminally under-appreciated Hammond player. His subtle touch just makes Procol Harum's music magical.

and of course Rick Wright (RIP) was an incredible player who was often forgotten
Are you sure these two are underrated ?
PF and PH get frequent airplay on the radio...
 
What about Eduardo del Barrio from Caldera who also released an interesting solo album, 'Free Play' :
 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:


For me Mathew Fisher from Procol Harum is a criminally under-appreciated Hammond player. His subtle touch just makes Procol Harum's music magical.

and of course Rick Wright (RIP) was an incredible player who was often forgotten
Are you sure these two are underrated ?
PF and PH get frequent airplay on the radio...


The bands get frequent airplay but the players often get forgotten because neither played dazzling solo's but both added so much to the music
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I'd say:
 
Peter Bardens: lovely melodies and noteworthy Hammond playing. His synths are exquisite.
 
Dave Sinclair: another master of simply but beautiful melodies, great organ work as well.
 
Dave Stewart: the forgotten prog keyboard master.
 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
George Duke: technical proficient and yet he seems to do it so easily with groove that not many keyboardists are able.
 
Joe Zawinul: another master on making unique soundscapes and beautiful original melodies.
 
Of course, all these are inclined towards fusion/jazz that might be the reason why they're not often mentioned around this place. If most Prog fans knew them, they would hesitate by calling the likes of Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson as the best keyboardists around. 
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

I'd say:
 
Peter Bardens: lovely melodies and noteworthy Hammond playing. His synths are exquisite.
 
Dave Sinclair: another master of simply but beautiful melodies, great organ work as well.
 
Dave Stewart: the forgotten prog keyboard master.
 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
George Duke: technical proficient and yet he seems to do it so easily with groove that not many keyboardists are able.
 
Joe Zawinul: another master on making unique soundscapes and beautiful original melodies.
 
Of course, all these are inclined towards fusion/jazz that might be the reason why they're not often mentioned around this place. If most Prog fans knew them, they would hesitate by calling the likes of Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson as the best keyboardists around. 

Agreed i love his albums with Egg and Bruford
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Rick Wright-Definitely doesn't get enough credit for his immense talent and what he brought to Pink Floyd.

Larry Fast-Synergy and Peter Gabriel. Always interesting without being over the top.

John Evan-Jethro Tull. His playing on Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play is terrific. He was great live, both as a player and performer.

Allan "Taff" Freeman-original keyboard player for Nektar. Like Rick Wright, understated, but without him Nektar wouldn't have been the same.

Mark Kelly-Marillion. If you aren't a fan of  Marillion  do people even know who he is? Great player, vital to the way the band sounds.
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 Even though just mentioned,  John Evan gets my vote, great pianist and keyboard master. Vince DiCola is also hardly mentioned, but talented and versatile.I don't hear much about Eddie Jobson in this forum, but his work is truly outstanding.
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If someone's or something is underated. By whom or what are they uderated by? It's so ambiguious. The word annoys me just about as much as teenage girls who use the word " like " as puncuation. As far as keyboardists go not everyone in progressive rock wanted to be a Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman.
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Hugh Banton....nuff said
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My current 70s favourite:




Also, not to say that he was a great technically gifted player, but I really love the contributions of the guy from Nektar:


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some keyboardists that are not mentioned near as much as they should be, and have done some incredibly compelling music-

Jurgen Fritz from Triumvirat

Toni Pagliuca from Le Orme

Oliviero Lacagnina from Latte e Miele

Eddie Spence from Strange Days

Joe Vescovi from The Trip

Peter Robinson from Quatermass and Brand X

Jurgen Dollase from Wallenstein and the Cosmic Jokers


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Additionally; although not a technical master of keyboards, per se, Wooly Wolstenholme (RIP, BJH) was a unqualified master of the mellotron....
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

If someone's or something is underated. By whom or what are they uderated by? It's so ambiguious. The word annoys me just about as much as teenage girls who use the word " like " as puncuation. As far as keyboardists go not everyone in progressive rock wanted to be a Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman.

I think it is an overused term absolutely. But there are times that it can be a valid term. I'm not going to defend the 6,000 threads that will come up if i searched for it but to write off everything that says underrated/overrated is a little excessive
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Fully agree with Jurgen Fritz, Toni Pagliuca, Dave Stewart...
I would also add
 
Kansas Joe Walsh, often regarded just as a singer, but listen to his keyboard playing in The Spider.
 
Dave Greenslade was a great keyboardist but unfortunately lacked the level of inspiration of others.
 
Par Lindh is not really under-appreciated but often forgotten. Similar situation with Erik Norlander. Clive Nolan is rarely mentioned but with the amount of work he has done I believe that he deserves credit, as well as Neal Morse.
I also believe that Geoff Downes is better than what the music he plays shows.
 
There's a little know italian guy named Luca Zabbini leader of the band Barock Project who is a real young keys virtuoso, very much influenced by Keith Emerson, check out their videos on You Tube. 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

I'd say:
 
Peter Bardens: lovely melodies and noteworthy Hammond playing. His synths are exquisite.
 
Dave Sinclair: another master of simply but beautiful melodies, great organ work as well.
 
Dave Stewart: the forgotten prog keyboard master.
 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
George Duke: technical proficient and yet he seems to do it so easily with groove that not many keyboardists are able.
 
Joe Zawinul: another master on making unique soundscapes and beautiful original melodies.
 
Of course, all these are inclined towards fusion/jazz that might be the reason why they're not often mentioned around this place. If most Prog fans knew them, they would hesitate by calling the likes of Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson as the best keyboardists around. 

Agreed i love his albums with Egg and Bruford


 
You shouldn't stop there. His organ work on Khan's Space Shanty is delightful. And his full keyboard work on both Hatfield & the North and National Health is incredible.
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Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

I'd say:
 
Peter Bardens: lovely melodies and noteworthy Hammond playing. His synths are exquisite.
 
Dave Sinclair: another master of simply but beautiful melodies, great organ work as well.
 
Dave Stewart: the forgotten prog keyboard master.
 
Mike Ratledge: may not be technically great, but the soundscapes he created are unmatchable. BTW, his organ work is pretty great.
 
George Duke: technical proficient and yet he seems to do it so easily with groove that not many keyboardists are able.
 
Joe Zawinul: another master on making unique soundscapes and beautiful original melodies.
 
Of course, all these are inclined towards fusion/jazz that might be the reason why they're not often mentioned around this place. If most Prog fans knew them, they would hesitate by calling the likes of Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson as the best keyboardists around. 

Agreed i love his albums with Egg and Bruford


 
You shouldn't stop there. His organ work on Khan's Space Shanty is delightful. And his full keyboard work on both Hatfield & the North and National Health is incredible.

I've checked out all 3 of them several times but have yet to commit much of them to memory. The first Hatfield album is great though, and though i can't remember much of Khan i know i really enjoy it
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Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

and of course Rick Wright (RIP) was an incredible player who was often forgotten
 
Yeah, remember when Pink Floyd did Live 8 and there were no close ups of Wright because the cameraman couldn't identify who the fourth band member was?
 
That really pissed me off.


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