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^ Thanks, Mayer, but I think even if John Lennon, Ozzy etc moved to USA they didn't become Americans.

Let's leave the band to China. It's also an additional attraction. Chinese prog band sounds cool, while one more American band doesn't.

As for progginess, nothing we can do. I think the genre team had their reasons to include the band.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47694
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72171

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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Thanks, Mayer, but I think even if John Lennon, Ozzy etc moved to USA they didn't become Americans.

Let's leave the band to China. It's also an additional attraction. Chinese prog band sounds cool, while one more American band doesn't.

As for progginess, nothing we can do. I think the genre team had their reasons to include the band.

Eugene, I hope all is well with you! I don't care much about it but something really interesting here is that on the 2010 & 2011 the band musicians were (by the name) Chinese and suddenly they moved to the USA and since 2012 all the band musicians are with American names! and why was it OK with Nektar to change from Germany to UK? stay safe
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=47694
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72171

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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Thanks, Mayer, but I think even if John Lennon, Ozzy etc moved to USA they didn't become Americans.

Let's leave the band to China. It's also an additional attraction. Chinese prog band sounds cool, while one more American band doesn't.

As for progginess, nothing we can do. I think the genre team had their reasons to include the band.

Eugene, I hope all is well with you! I don't care much about it but something really interesting here is that on the 2010 & 2011 the band musicians were (by the name) Chinese and suddenly they moved to the USA and since 2012 all the band musicians are with American names! and why was it OK with Nektar to change from Germany to UK? stay safe

Thanks, Mayer, I hope you're OK and safe too. Handshake
I've noticed too that musicians changed their Chinese names. I guess it's because that names like Zha Si is hard to remember and even pronounce for US audience.

Nektar is a different beast in my opinion - they formed in Germany, but misicians are Brits. That's the difference.


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Hello everybody!

This is Nad Sylvan’s assistant Birgit.
Nice to get to know you!

Listen, I hope I have entered the right thread here.
Nad is coming out with a new album on April 9 and I have noticed
a few errors on this page. 


- Nad Sylvan / lead & backing vocals, guitars, keyboards, co-producer
With:
- Steve Hackett / guitar (11)
- Tony Levin / bass
- Jonas Reingold / bass
- Mirkko DeMaio / drums

Nad has not co-produced this album, he produced it entirely on his own.
But, the album is co-written with Andrew Laitres (The Winter Tree), who plays 
basically all the acoustic guitars and sings on this album. Sadly, he doesn’t even get a mention here.
The correct info should be:

- Nad Sylvan / lead & backing vocals, guitars, bass, drums, keyboards, orchestration, producer.
- Andrew Laitres / guitar, vocals
- Steve Hackett / guitar (11)
- Tony Levin / bass (1, 2, 3, 10)
- Jonas Reingold / bass (7)
- Mirkko De Maio / drums (1, 3, 7, 10)
- Neil Whitford / guitar (7, 9)
- Steve Piggot / guitar (9)
- Kiwi Te Kanna / wind instruments (6, 8)

Also, track 12 is actually a “hidden track” and should not be mentioned.
Unfortunately this is a glitch from the record company.

Hope you will have this remedied soon.

With kind regards,
Birgit Lindeau 
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^ Hi Birgit, thanks for taking the time to contact us. I've made the corrections. Have a nice day! Smile
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Thank you kindly!

Is it possible to also remove track 12
from the list, as it is a hidden track and we
do not want to spoil the surprise?
Unfortunately this was a mistake made by
the online web store at InsideOut to make this public.
Thanks for understanding.

With kind regards,
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Birgit,

The goal of Progarchives is to be as complete as possible. So to be honest I don't feel comfortable to remove information. And I did some Google search, and this "hidden track" is now announced pretty much everywhere, so removing it from PA would be pointless.

Sorry about that. Then I think it could be some kind of selling point for the CD version... Wink
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Too bad. I’m trying to contact all sources that has gotten this
leaked information. The song is not on the album cover.

With kind regards,
Birgit Lindsay
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And by the way, there are other hidden tracks listed here:
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=51573
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=54066

So as you can see, we try to get everything listed. Normally, the hidden track for the forthcoming album would not be listed, but then would have been someday (after the release)...
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^ Looks like we can "unlist" the track for some time, i.e. mention it like 12. Hidden track (or don't mention it at all).

The problem is not to forget to restore it later. 


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I fully understand your policy, and of course I respect your point of view.
The only problem is that this info is a little premature.

Warmest wishes,
Birgit Lindeau
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^ Birgit, OK, I'll "hide" it, please only tell us:

1. What's better - mention it now like 12. Hidden track or don't mention it at all?
2. When in your opinion it has to be "restored"?
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My best answer would be that you should follow your normal
proceedings. I am very grateful for your understanding as I know
how this error by the label deeply upset Nad, as it happened previously too
with “The Regal b*****d” album and the song “Black Sheep”.

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^ With normal proceedings we'd leave info as it is. It at least prevents from further confusions (what the hidden track is?).
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I see. I must have been mistaken, as I thought you would reveal the track
later on when the album has been out for a while. My wish is that you don’t reveal
the track at all if I have a choise. I know this would honor Nad’s request.
I will leave it up to you.

Many thanks and be well,
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^ I prefer (even kind of insist) to reveal the track sooner or later. Hiding it forever is in my opinion a bad option, because the question "what the hidden track is?" will appear some day, we don't know when. But most likely we'll forget its title then. 
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I rest my case. You win. Hope you’re happy.

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^ Thanks, though it's not the victory I dreamed of. Battles with artists is whatever but not our team's duty.
It's a pity you don't accept the compromise I've offered.
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