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Originally posted by Hiram Hiram wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=34501

This album does not exist. 

There's no mention of it on discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/30952-Ektroverde

And the label catalogue number is used on Faust CD: https://www.discogs.com/label/15933-Ektro-Records

It was probably announced as upcoming back in the day but was never released in the end. 
Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ Thanks, admins should delete it soon.

You need to ask them (or Eugene) to edit out the listing of this 'ghost' album in the band's biography too if you don't yet have sufficient privileges to edit biographies yourself.
The band's official website is a dead link too. The current one is at http://www.phinnweb.org/circle/ektroverde/.

NAP: Thanks, no ghost in the bio. Ghosts afraid of holy water. Smile 


Edited by NotAProghead - February 28 2021 at 10:14
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^ Yes, I know... Wink I asked Keishiro to delete the mention in the discography. But I didn't notice that the website link was broken.

But Keishiro says he needs to do some verification before deleting this album.
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All the Ektroverde albums are there on that Phinnweb website, complete with track lists, timings (except for the July 2000 release 'Integral'), musicians involved (but not what instruments they actually played) and releases info.

The Harakkakuisti CD is listed too (ektro-007cd, spring 2000) but no other details are included whatsoever, so it is highly likely that it doesn't exist anywhere as has been suggested.

The old Ektro Records website indeed confirms that the ektro-007cd release reference initially allocated to the Harakkakuisti album was definitely used by the label for Faust: The Land of Ukko & Rauni (2CD). It was sold out in July 2002, but previously available in April 2001, so that album definitely existed.

Although the 'Integral' CD has no track timings on the Phinweb website, most other info is there (though as usual, the actual instruments played by the individual band members isn't specified), and the track timings can be found on the Snowdonia bandcamp page for the album (it was a joint Snowdonia / Mizmaze release). Our page for the Integral album currently has no info at all other than the track list without timings. According to the Mizmaze page for the Integral album, the band line up changes constantly, so it might be that we have to just list the band members without the details of what instruments each one of them actually played.

In fact only the Arpeggio (1999) and Ukkossalama (2003) albums currently have any musicians info on our site, so the rest could be updated with the info provided on the Phinnweb site. It all needs a good looking at lol!
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^ Thanks, David. I updated all albums. Smile
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72077

- David Horn / lead guitars, rhythm guitars, Tenor saxophone, all instruments (6,8)
- Richard Horn / keyboards, bass
With:
- Scott Higham / drums, percussion
- Rinaldo Martinez / vocals (1)

Label: Self
Format: CD, Digital
February 24, 2021
Cover: Maya Weizman
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.

Total time was also wrong (2 minutes shorter). Wink
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ Mayer, I think it's because artist name on PA is JANE GETTER and her page includes both her solo albums and albums of Jane Getter Premonition (a band or a project).

In my opinion correct titles would be:
On (as Jane Getter Premonition)
On Tour (as Jane Getter Premonition)
Anomalia

or
Jane Getter Premonition - On
Jane Getter Premonition - On Tour
Anomalia

What do you prefer?

Eugene, there is NOTHING on the PA page that has her solo albums (If she does) and on all three albums it says "Jane Getter Premonition" so IMHO the bands name should be changed to "Jane Getter Premonition" from "Jane Getter" and 
In my opinion correct titles would be:
On
On Tour
Anomalia

Originally posted by projeKct projeKct wrote:

^ I think Mayer is right.

Jane Getter has three solo albums (not on PA)

and three releases (one is forthcoming) under the name "Jane Getter Premonition" (on PA)

So the PA artist page should be changed to reflect that, and/or the biography updated with this information...

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

^ If so, the album "Anomalia", recently added by Mayer, has to be deleted.

In general, it's a question to Eclectic Prog Team.

Personally, I strongly dislike artificial (IMO) division to artist's works and his/her projects, no matter how different they are. If there is an artist, let us see all his/her works, it allows us to overview the whole spectrum.

I'd prefer to add three missing Jane Getter solo albums instead of this discussion.
Additionally, I guess the genre team, when decided to add Jane Getter page (but not only Jane Getter Premonition), had reasons for that decision.

Sorry for the delay getting back to you guys on this.

As Mayer says, all the albums on the Jane Getter page are Jane Getter Premonition albums. The evaluation thread is confusing because it seemed like the evaluation (few comments about the material, so its clear as mud) in 2016 was on all the albums, but the solo ones were not added. However, the person who did the artist entry is not the same person who did the album entry on the first 2 (most recent was Mayer's)  I personally found the 3 solo named albums to be extremely different from the Premonition albums, basically modern radio r&b infused jazz rather than anything progressive. So I have taken the interim measure of changing the name of the DB entry to Jane Getter Premonition and removed the Jane Getter Premonition qualifier from each of the albums. 

As I said, this is an interim decision to at least give the DB entry a more firm context. I will run this by the Eclectic team to see if they are on the same page as far as her solo material. It can be modified again later if need be.

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^ Thanks, Ian.

Sorry, I didn't notice that "Anomalia" released as Jane Getter Premonition album (too small text on the sticker).

One more point, i.e. inconsistency in projects' names (discussing from time to time in the forum).
Some examples:

But:

I prefer the second option, i.e. project name is more a band name than an artist name (ALAN PARSONS BAND, under A: JANE GETTER PREMONITION, under G etc), but it's up to Admins/Genre Teams to decide.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=71646

1. Resurrection (9:13)
2. Private Affairs (5:44)
3. The Book of Dreams (9:29)
4. Away from Shadows (7:54)
5. Luna (4:03)
6. In Discipline and With Love (12:28)

Total Time  48:51
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53238
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53233

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Thanks Mayer,

I improved http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=53233 (maybe still not perfect, but hey!)


Have a nice day! Smile
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72109

Cover: Pablo Solari
Label: Bad Elephant
Format: Vinyl, CD, Digital
April 23, 2021
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=72128

Length 4:56
Cover https://stratospheerius.com/ or https://open.spotify.com/album/4xGIJoDCwVAoggofFcy0ep?si=L0zROxluR1yNxZCicBooVQ&nd=1

- Joe Deninzon / lead vocals, electric violin
- Michelangelo Quirinale / guitar
- Paul Ranieri / bass
-Jason Gianni / drums

With:
- Randy McStine / vocals
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=69389

1. ARTEMIS (3:48)
2. What You Could Be (4:15)
3. Cylia (5:01)
4. Caramel (4:14)
5. GAPS (4:03)
6. Dimensions (8:26)
7. Pacifica (3:52)
8. Portia (5:54)
9. Rival (3:57)
10. Phantom (5:16)
11. Summers ~Episode II~ (4:56)

Total Time  53:42
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^ Thanks Mayer, done.
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6466

According to the band Bandcamp page the band was formed in China and moved to Austin Texas
https://rainbowdangerclub.bandcamp.com/ so they are a USA band not China 
Case and point: Nektar was formed in Germany but are under UK
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=549
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Originally posted by mbzr48 mbzr48 wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6466

According to the band Bandcamp page the band was formed in China and moved to Austin Texas
https://rainbowdangerclub.bandcamp.com/ so they are a USA band not China 
Case and point: Nektar was formed in Germany but are under UK
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=549

By the way I just listened to the last 3 singles I posted from 2021 and they have NOTHING to do with prog, they are Indie pop
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