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    Posted: August 26 2020 at 04:56
Sorry for yet another Duke thread, this just crossed my mind.
From the Crossover Prog Definition:
Crossover Prog contains progressive rock music that, though 100% progressive, may have a musical connection to popular music-- whether it be the lack of emphasis on extended compositions, or an influence from mainstream music in addition to classical, jazz and folk.
Doesn't Duke fit that criteria? Or is it just because it's considered more symphonic than crossover prog? I'm not too familiar with crossover prog, so I'm a bit confused... Confused
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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Sorry for yet another Duke thread, this just crossed my mind.
From the Crossover Prog Definition:
<span style="font-family: " sans", Arial, sans-serif;">Crossover Prog contains progressive rock music that, though 100% progressive, may have a musical connection to popular music-- whether it be the lack of emphasis on extended compositions, or an influence from mainstream music in addition to classical, jazz and folk.</span>
Doesn't Duke fit that criteria? Or is it just because it's considered more symphonic than crossover prog? I'm not too familiar with crossover prog, so I'm a bit confused... Confused


Whole discographies go in one category here as we classify by band/artist.

In the Prog Archives database we can't classify albums by category placement, we classify bands and artists. So Genesis is in the Symphonic Prog category according to what was deemed the most Prog/PA relevant albums. That said, Duke could be called Crossover, and if that best represented Genesis discography for PA, then Genesis might be found in Crossover.
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You can't define an album to a genre, it's only the artist so you'd have to move Genesis.
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Ok, then. It would be hard to define David Bowie (if he was mainly prog, that is).
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David Bowie is in the Prog Related category if you didn't know that already. Had his music been deemed sufficiently Prog, rather than the artist has a Prog relation, then he would be found in Crossover Prog. Many acts cross different styles from album to album, and even in albums. Some of those will find their way to Crossover Prog (if there is a mainstream/ pop quality) or to Eclectic Prog. Genesis was included in Symphonic Prog before we even had a Crossover Prog category -- we used to have an art rock category.

If this site had album multi-tagging, then we wouldn't really need a Crossover tag at all, we could just have pop as one of the labels.

I, like many others, wish that we could label albums by genres (I'd still quite like to have the band master category) but this site's architecture would have to be rebuilt for that functionality, and it would be a massive, and I expect expensive for the owner, task.

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Originally posted by FatherChristmas FatherChristmas wrote:

Ok, then. It would be hard to define David Bowie (if he was mainly prog, that is).
 
Yes there are plenty of acts who have albums that would span across different genres but there's nothing we can do about that without a change to the way PA works.
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