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Moogtron III 
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Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
 Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:25 |
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In the movie Clueless, there is a girl who asks a question to her best friend: why are people always overwhelmed or underwhelmed, but never just "whelmed"? My question is: why are bands overrated or underrated, and never just "rated", like in a good review? |
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micky
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:27 |
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let me ammend that post. Bills are overrated. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:28 |
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 where does Almost always come into play. |
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micky
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Posted: November 12 2005 at 10:30 |
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agreed, don't think Camel is overrated either. |
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salmacis
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Content Addition Joined: April 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3928 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 15:35 |
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Not a chance- Camel are one of the greats, in my opinion, and have genuine emotion and feeling in their music, which some take (oddly imo) to be a weakness and call them 'second division'...This annoys me, as their albums are beautifully crafted and performed. |
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Publius84
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Joined: November 11 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 1043 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 16:14 |
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The threads such as "some band is overrated" Or "some band vs. some band" are boring and leads us to nowhere. It doesn't make any sense to start topics like that.
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Charles
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Joined: April 01 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 167 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 16:23 |
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No, why is that while Genesis, Tull, Yes, Pink Floyd were more famous, Camel happened to be in the long run just as influential on the Neo-progressive scene as Genesis.
They had a magical run of great albums, but my all time favorite will always be The Snow Goose
Charles |
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G'day
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ProgPartin
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Joined: August 15 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 60 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 17:12 |
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The Album reviews and ratings for Camel area great source of info. I can't say I like all of Camel's music but I would not say overrated. They made great inovations. |
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Tony Fisher
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Joined: April 30 2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 967 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 17:55 |
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Don't be ridiculous. They are underrated if anything; not everyone gives them their rightful place as the best band of all time. Now let's stop these bloody silly overrated/underrated threads. |
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Pseud0
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Joined: July 31 2005 Status: Offline Points: 415 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 18:03 |
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wtf is with these overrated threads
camel is amazing |
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mr.burns
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Joined: September 30 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 185 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 18:14 |
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Camel is brilliant,moon madness is a classic.
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Father Ted: Sheep like all wool-bearing animals, instinctively travel north. Where it's colder, and they won't be so stuffy.
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Biggles
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Joined: June 18 2005 Status: Offline Points: 705 |
Posted: November 12 2005 at 21:16 |
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I think they're a very good band, but nowhere near geniuses. They can't touch stuff like "Close to the Edge," and, as I think one reviewer put it, "The Snow Goose" is lovely, and it is in fact so lovely that you could show it to your grandmother or great-grandmother and she would think it's lovely too. There's no real danger behind it, nothing shocking or particularly new. It's a good band with very competent musicians, and Andy Latimer's prioritization of melody above noodling fingers is what makes that band and makes it sound fresh, but I wouldn't classify them as being one of the best prog bands ever. Not even close.
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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RoyalJelly
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Joined: September 29 2005 Status: Offline Points: 582 |
Posted: November 13 2005 at 08:44 |
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Camel as influential as Genesis? Let's get serious. I've never heard a single innovation in the music of Camel (and we gave them a big chance back in the day, up until Raindance, there one had to draw the line, and they never delivered), they always seemed to be comfortably riding in the wake of the other band's innovations. That said, threads of this nature are much overrated. |
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Posted: November 13 2005 at 08:47 |
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Camel are not in the same class as Genesis ,Tull and Yes not even close
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ElwoodHerring
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Joined: November 12 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 232 |
Posted: November 13 2005 at 09:09 |
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I wish Andy Latimer had joined up with Pink Floyd when Roger Waters left. That would have been my ideal band. Floyd has the power and the glory, Latimer (i.e. Camel) has the melody that later Floyd lacked, and I reckon he would have fitted in perfectly.
Just my 2 minims' worth... 
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Alagithil
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Joined: November 10 2005 Status: Offline Points: 122 |
Posted: November 13 2005 at 21:47 |
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I would also say Camel are to prog what Love are to psychedelia--mixing the best of every influence in a great melting pot and coming out with a lovely, musically perfect concoction.
If you haven't heard Forever Changes, do so. |
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Life is like an avantgarde play because tuna. |
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828 |
Posted: November 14 2005 at 03:23 |
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I bought their "Moodmadness" album from the discount as it had neat covers, and it was recommended by a record shop keeper who knew my prog tastes. As a lunatic I ofcourse fell in I had problems geeting into their other albums though. I loaned "Snowgoose" from the library, but I found it boring. My friend has one of their vinyl, where the camel is on a train or something on the album cover, and he played me a nice ballad song from it. I'm also having "Raindances" for me soon, and I'll check out, as it was recommended to my (by snow dog I recall? Edited by Eetu Pellonpää |
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are CAMEL overrated ?
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Snow Dog wrote:
with it immetiuadly. Always on the winter nights, when the sky is clear and the full moon gleams the snowy landscape, I just have to put "Lunar sea" rolling on my turntable. 
). But are there any other suggestion, which albums by this overrated (