Punk haters: something to think about

The Miracle wrote: Too bad their own material is sh*te Original punk bands possibly have some good stuff, although it's absolutely not to my taste, but modern pop punk and emo is garbage that makes me vomit worse than rap  I remember a long time ago I was given "the essential Clash" as a gift, I found it so primitive and stupid No solos, crappy vocals, simple compositions, I just don't see what's good about it. I remember I sold it and got Fragile

Yea, I can't remember how I acquired it, but I got that too. I listened to it once, and was completely unimpressed (minus "Rock the Casbah"), and that was during a period where I actually liked a good deal of punk music, though most of it was more modern. Same deal with The Ramones. Actually, I guess I've never liked "real punk," but I have enjoyed NOFX and Rancid. Those two bands in particular always stood out to me the punk scene.

Joy Division

Joy Division

Joy Division

Joy Division

LISTEN TO THEM

Read this thread, especially Syzygy's posts:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17947& amp;PN=1

Eh, punk. If "punk" is Simple Plan, Sum41, Greenday etc., then it sucks.

If punk's the Strokes or Sex Pistols, then it's not bad, although simple.

Rosescar wrote: Eh, punk. If "punk" is Simple Plan, Sum41, Greenday etc., then it sucks. If punk's the Strokes or Sex Pistols, then it's not bad, although simple.

Those modern bands do suck i wouldnt even consider them punk

I dont really like the sex pistols i think they had a few good catchy songs (Pretty Vacant,God Save The Queen) but overall not really great i would put them in the same category as ac/dc i guess.The Strokes arent Punk at all there mainstream Alternative but there probbably one of the best mainstream acts out today but thats not really saying much.

I avoided punk for years because of the mainstream garbage like good charlotte,Green Day,Simple Plan i dont think you can judge punk by listening to the few mainstream acts you have heard because in my opinion the best punk was underground and some bands had great musicianship but for me what comes first before musicianship is creativity and innovation and all these bands have them. 

The Damned,Minutemen,Dead Kennedys,Television,Pere Ubu,Subhumans,Crass,Cardiacs,Black Flag,The Fall,Gang Of Four,Joy Division,Killing Joke,Public Image Ltd,Bad Brains,The Stranglers,Nomeansno,Richard Hell And The Voidoids,The Ruts,Wire and more these are my favourite punk bands and they were all highly creative and innovative and some of them still are 

ive probably typed this rant out a million times on our site lol just listen to some of the good bands of punk and not judge the crappy mainstream ones 

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This is kinda off topic...

but many say that prog is dead or so...bla bla bla, but for me if there is a genre that is really dead thats punk. it died around the ´80, after that you just get pop punk and alternative...not even thouse asses like Rancid are punk because the show an interest in hip hop and other music forms...for me the original punk band are or were the Sex Pistols, with there raw music and I really give a f**k what you say or think attitud...then others maybe also, but no band represents punk as good as they do...still they were horrible. But the point is that punk was an idea that latter transformed into music...but when you have this pop punk bands that play this kinda music because they really show no interest in learning or knowing how to play better...well, thats not punk...thats just being lazy and stupid which later the record companys publish as punk...please

But then there are bands like Green Day or Good Charlotte which are really killing (...killing? well lets say harming the dead ehehhe) the genre by making rock operas and semi conceptual albums...is there anything punk about a concept? No, because than means you must think and punk is not about thinking, its about taking the guitar and shouting out and loud what you think...anyway, all punk bands are pathetic...

el böthy wrote: This is kinda off topic... but many say that prog is dead or so...bla bla bla, but for me if there is a genre that is really dead thats punk. it died around the ´80, after that you just get pop punk and alternative...not even thouse asses like Rancid are punk because the show an interest in hip hop and other music forms...for me the original punk band are or were the Sex Pistols, with there raw music and I really give a f**k what you say or think attitud...then others maybe also, but no band represents punk as good as they do...still they were horrible. But the point is that punk was an idea that latter transformed into music...but when you have this pop punk bands that play this kinda music because they really show no interest in learning or knowing how to play better...well, thats not punk...thats just being lazy and stupid which later the record companys publish as punk...please But then there are bands like Green Day or Good Charlotte which are really killing (...killing? well lets say harming the dead ehehhe) the genre by making rock operas and semi conceptual albums...is there anything punk about a concept? No, because than means you must think and punk is not about thinking, its about taking the guitar and shouting out and loud what you think...anyway, all punk bands are pathetic...

pathetic ^^  ^^

Punk is such a strange music area..I think that it has evolved these days.Many subgenres such as post punk/punk rock/ska punk even gothic punk.Now it ain't a style for people that just can't play their instruments....It wouldn't be wise to ignore it...A nice observation was made for Joy Division.They started as a punk band and look the new order albums..Such a great band...I think that prog rockers hate this kind of music because the punk movement begun as a revolution to prog/hard rock.But really...even the sex pistols played with their heart....It ain't bad...Don't be such a close-minded fan like the late 70s punksters :).Good music comes from everywhere,really....

el böthy wrote: This is kinda off topic... but many say that prog is dead or so...bla bla bla, but for me if there is a genre that is really dead thats punk. it died around the ´80, after that you just get pop punk and alternative...not even thouse asses like Rancid are punk because the show an interest in hip hop and other music forms...for me the original punk band are or were the Sex Pistols, with there raw music and I really give a f**k what you say or think attitud...then others maybe also, but no band represents punk as good as they do...still they were horrible. But the point is that punk was an idea that latter transformed into music...but when you have this pop punk bands that play this kinda music because they really show no interest in learning or knowing how to play better...well, thats not punk...thats just being lazy and stupid which later the record companys publish as punk...please But then there are bands like Green Day or Good Charlotte which are really killing (...killing? well lets say harming the dead ehehhe) the genre by making rock operas and semi conceptual albums...is there anything punk about a concept? No, because than means you must think and punk is not about thinking, its about taking the guitar and shouting out and loud what you think...anyway, all punk bands are pathetic...