BLUES - PROG

do you think Prog Archive should introduce a new sub-genre called BLUES-PROG to include many deserving bands into the fold such as LED ZEP, GROUNDHOGS, FREE, CREAM, HENDRIX etc. ?? there would be a very rich seam here for our discussion and deliberation.

your comments ladeez and gentlemen.....??

earlyprog wrote: mystic fred wrote: do you think Prog Archive should introduce a new sub-genre called BLUES-PROG Doesn't make sense to me. True though that many proto prog bands derived from blues but they went the prog direction while those bands you mention went the rock direction (blues rock and eventually simply rock). Where's the element of prog of these bands?

my personal concept of prog rock was  formed around the late 60's and early 70's when the music of any group could challenge the accepted idea of the standard pop song i.e. the three minute pop hit/ albums that were just a collection of short songs thrown together/ simple music played on t.v./radio that was governed to follow an accepted format etc. etc. Early albums such as Revolver/Sgt.Pepper/Electric Ladyland broke from that envelope and influenced many other bands to do the same. no wonder many session musicians formed prog bands - they must have been frustrated and bored out of their minds! The modern concept of prog to many seems to mean mellotrons , deep meaningful lyrics and an assortment of strange instruments, long solos,technical virtuosity - which is fine, though i believe really prog rock covers a much much wider spectrum, and should include such groups as Wishbone Ash, Groundhogs, Free, The Who, Cream, Hendrix, et al  as they were all considered progressive in the early 70's, many different bands were as long as they were playing jazz, rock or blues outside the normally accepted structures... . saying that, there were less" labelled" music genres in those days such as "symphonic" and "canterbury" as they are referred to these days, then everything was just "progressive rock" or "blues" or just "pop". i suppose everything in retrospect needs pigeon-holing otherwise we would not know where we were, or it would be very confusing to a newcomer not to have some form of tagging. so the point i was trying to put forward is that many more groups and sub-genres could be included in PA and be called progressive . should i mention Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew" should be included in PA? that album was considered extremely progressive when it was made - though i would call it progressive jazz - now that should ruffle a few feathers! 

John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers---Bare Wires, Blues From Laural Canyon. Long experimental riffs and jams. Concept albums both. Horns, keyboards, piano and lots of smokin guitars. A whole new level in blues and jazz. Sounds pretty progressive too me.

I didn't think so until I bought the CD called Live Cream and fell on the floor digging the extended, highly prog-lo-tized arrangements of "N.S.U.,"  "Sleepytime Time" and "Sweet Wine".

A good compromise would be a section called "ProgRoots" that detailed the musical elements that had a formative influence on the genre of Prog proper, from Hendrix to Bartok.

I really like British blues!!!

Many blues bands in the late sixties and in the seventies tried to fuse jazz, blues with prog:

• CLIMAX (CHICAGO) BLUES BAND - "Plays On" (1970)
• CLIMAX (CHICAGO) BLUES BAND - "A Lot Of Bottle" (1970)
• CLIMAX (CHICAGO) BLUES BAND - "Tightly Knit" (1971)
• COLOSSEUM - "Those Who Are About To Die Salute You" (1969)
• COLOSSEUM - "Valentyne Suite" (1969)
• BAKERLOO - "Bakerloo" (1969)
• FLEETWWOD MAC - "Then Play On" (1970)
• GROUNDHOGS - "Blues Obituary" (1969)
• GROUNDHOGS - "Thank Christ For The Bomb" (1970)
• GROUNDHOGS - "Split" (1971)
• GROUNDHOGS - "Who Will Save The World?" (1972)
• KEEF HARTLEY BAND - "Halfbreed" (1969)
• KEEF HARTLEY BAND - "The Battle Of North West Six" (1970)
• KEEF HARTLEY BAND - "The Time Is Near..." (1970)
• KILLING FLOOR - "Killing Floor" (1969)
• KILLING FLOOR - "Out Of Uranus" (1971)
• LOVE SCULPTURE - "Blues Helping" (1968)
• LOVE SCULPTURE - "Forms And Feelings" (1969)
• JOHN MAYALL - "Bare Wires" (1968)
• JOHN MAYALL - "Blues From Laurel Canyon" (1969)
• JOHN MAYALL - "Back To The Roots" (1971)
• JOHN MAYALL - "Jazz Blues Fusion" (1972)
• TEN YEARS AFTER - "Undead" (1968)
• TEN YEARS AFTER - "Stonedhenge" (1969)
• PETE BROWN BATTERED ORNAMENTS - "A Meal You Can Shake Hands With In The Dark" (1969)
• PETE BROWN BATTERED ORNAMENTS - "Mantle Piece" (1969)
• SKID ROW - "Skid" (1970)
• SKID ROW - "34 Hours" (1971)
• STEAMHAMMER - "Reflection" (1969)
• STEAMHAMMER - "MK II" (1969)
• STEAMHAMMER - "Mountains" (1970)
• SPIRIT OF JOHN MORGAN - "Spirit Of John Morgan" (1969)
• GRAHAM BOND - "Solid Bond" (1970)
• GRAHAM BOND - "Holy Magic" (1971)
• GRAHAM BOND - "We Put Our Magic On You" (1974)