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Zargus

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Topic: Styx vs Toto
Posted: January 14 2008 at 14:50

i dont konw wich one of em i dislike more..

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Posted: January 04 2008 at 12:57

blimey...I've got to redress the balance somehow by voting for Toto....

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Posted: January 04 2008 at 09:51

Toto cannot be impaired with Styx because the second has some good albums with some prog and some hard-rock songs. Check Styx, Styx II, The Serpent is Rising and Equinox.

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 20:37

micky wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

Thanks Micky. I thought I was the only one on this site who liked that song, especially after reading similar posts from Ivan in other threads. Probably due to the song being popular during my developmental/formative years.

hahhaha... Ivan repeats things so many times it gives the appearence that lots of people think that way LOL

in all seriousness... I'm sure that is a big reason... how many people here trash music that they in fact actually liked their formative years

No it's not me Marjkos and Micky, lets read some opinions:

Peter wrote:

el b? wrote:

heheh Mr Roboto is so bad its actually a lot of fun!
Secret secret, I got a secret secret...

Am I a man or man-ee-kaaaannnn....

Stynx deserve their own brand of CHEESE for that one!

(Maybe that's what that "favourite cheese" pollster meant, by "American cheese?")

salmacis wrote:

'Domo origato, Mr Roboto' anyone? One of the worst songs ever. Everybody in the band seemingly hated that whole affair bar Dennis DeYoung who has always seemingly had the Broadway mentality. He even performs in Broadway these days!
Tommy Shaw I believe said he felt like crying when a 10 year old kid said how much he like 'Mr Roboto'. That song is so awful I never bothered with 'Kilroy'.

Sean Trane wrote:

Any comments Mr Robotto? OR should I say Mr. Lobotto?

Easy Livin wrote:

The opening track "Mr Roboto" is an eighties electronic piece of fluff, with jaunty synths and a tuneless melody. Unfortunately, it sets the tone for the album, things descending even further on the likes of "High time".

Thyme Traveller wrote:

The Bad: Was there a more annoying song played in the 80's than Mr Roboto ?
Prosciutto wrote:

So you guys who slam at this album so badly (specially because of the song Mr. Roboto) should pay more attention to the remaining eight tracks of this record.

If I follow I could find many more, this doesn't mean it's bad, only that many people believe it's an horrendous track.

And my dislike is not because it's popular, I still like Come Sail Away and Fooling Yourself which are far more popular, and I found Mr Robotto cheesy since the first listen, almost as bad as Babe.

IvÃ¡n

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 02 2008 at 20:56

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:40

hahhaha... Ivan repeats things so many times it gives the appearence that lots of people think that way LOL

in all seriousness... I'm sure that is a big reason... how many people here trash music that they in fact actually liked their formative years

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:32

Thanks Micky. I thought I was the only one on this site who liked that song, especially after reading similar posts from Ivan in other threads. Probably due to the song being popular during my developmental/formative years.

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 18:30

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

markosherrera wrote:

Perhaps Styx was more prog ,but I prefer Toto

What you prefer Hold the line or Mr Roboto?

Markos, is not faiir to comnpare the worst song of STYX (recognized by everybody) with one of Tot0o's hits.

Why don't you compare:

Hold the Line with Fooling Yoursaelf,. Moivement for a Common Man, Crystal Ball, SupÃ©rstar, Lights, Boat on the River or even Come Sail Away and it's moog soolo?

IvÃ¡n

worst song...pfff... good thing I don't rely on you all for musical recommendations hahhaha

Mr. Roboto frickin rules... Clap

not be tarnished by that insipid VW commerical..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRNGbs26MNo

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 17:04

markosherrera wrote:

Perhaps Styx was more prog ,but I prefer Toto

What you prefer Hold the line or Mr Roboto?

Markos, is not faiir to comnpare the worst song of STYX (recognized by everybody) with one of Tot0o's hits.

Why don't you compare:

Hold the Line with Fooling Yoursaelf,. Moivement for a Common Man, Crystal Ball, SupÃ©rstar, Lights, Boat on the River or even Come Sail Away and it's moog soolo?

IvÃ¡n

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Posted: January 02 2008 at 08:49

Perhaps Styx was more prog ,but I prefer Toto

What you prefer Hold the line or Mr Roboto?

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Posted: December 23 2007 at 07:05

Toto.

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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:22

For those of you that doubt how progressive Toto is, take a full and engaged listen to their newest album "Falling in Between." Very lush, complex, and in-depth musical compositions!

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Posted: June 22 2007 at 03:23

Toto in places is far more progressive see them live and compare them to styx live and you will agree

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Posted: June 21 2007 at 04:33

E-Dub wrote:

I like Toto, but don't consider them progressive. Styx became less and less prog, but there was a time when they were. I went with Styx.

And as a sidenote, as much as I like Peart, Portnoy, Gadd, Harrison, Collins, etc., I consider Porcaro one of the best (if not the best) drummer that I've ever heard. Technically, the guy was a master who possessed impeccable timing and feel. Donald Fagan of Steely Dan once said that out of all the various drummers they used, Porcaro was the only one who consistently nailed his parts on the first take.

Out of all the musicians who have passed on, I miss Porcaro the most. R.I.P., Jeff.

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Agree on everything you have said. Indeed, Porcaro was a dynamo behind the trap set. That is why Simon Philips had some big shoes to fill, but I feel he has filled them quite well. I just wish Toto would let Philips do a solo, something like when he was playing with Jeff Beck on There & Back. Don't see any of that on Toto 25th anniversary concert DVD (too bad...)

Edited by prog4evr - June 21 2007 at 04:34

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Posted: June 19 2007 at 22:31

The closest the Porcaro's got to prog was their association with Jon Anderson. Styx put out a couple of pomp rock albums that came close up on the verge of prog rock. Neither of them quite made it (although Pieces of Eight is still one of the best albums ever released.)

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Posted: June 07 2007 at 18:01

Well, he's underated from where I am, at least

. Most of the musicians I know, specially drummers, dislike the guy. They say Porcaro is too simplistic and predictable. Oh well.

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Posted: June 07 2007 at 17:38

Well I prefer Toto to Styx any day.

Edited by Cristi - June 07 2007 at 17:39

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Posted: May 29 2007 at 18:58

E-Dub wrote:

Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

E-Dub wrote:

I like Toto, but don't consider them progressive. Styx became less and less prog, but there was a time when they were. I went with Styx. And as a sidenote, as much as I like Peart, Portnoy, Gadd, Harrison, Collins, etc., I consider Porcaro one of the best (if not the best) drummer that I've ever heard. Technically, the guy was a master who possessed impeccable timing and feel. Donald Fagan of Steely Dan once said that out of all the various drummers they used, Porcaro was the only one who consistently nailed his parts on the first take. Out of all the musicians who have passed on, I miss Porcaro the most. R.I.P., Jeff. E

Well said E.

A highly underrated dummer. I admire his single hand 16-beat pattern on the hi hat.

Thanks, MM; but, I don't think he was underrated at all. While he was alive he was one of the more sought after studio drummers from Boz Scaggs to Madonna. Maybe outside of music's inner circle he's not mentioned a lot; however, within the music industry he was highly regarded as one of the best in the business.

I agree with you regarding his 1/16 notes on the high hat...particularly with only his right hand. What's also not known by all is his 'dancing in the pedals' technique where he could duplicate a double bass pedal with only his right foot. He demonstrates it on his instructional video and it's amazing to watch.

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Well, he's underated from where I am, at least

. Most of the musicians I know, specially drummers, dislike the guy. They say Porcaro is too simplistic and predictable. Oh well.

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Posted: May 29 2007 at 05:15

Toto is my favorite band so I just CAN'T be objective with them but, frankly, they are as much prog related as, let's say, Iron Maiden or Supertramp. And I know that many prog fans like them and listen to them. Which doesn't know imply that they should be included in this site : I really think that they don't belong here but they are not the only ones, believe me ...

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