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    Posted: January 17 2010 at 13:18
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd.

if all recent topics came from relligious threads it just means there have been no posts to other topics, quite simple. if there had been the musical topics would again be on top; it is the way this is organised. but I don't understand why you don't simply use the "New Posts" feature; it is absolutely sufficient for me. you don't miss any new posts then. it is a much better way to follow all activities. I always use "New Posts" and nothing else to keep informed about anything which has been going on


See, I've highlighted the problem. You're a completely different forum user than I am. No matter what arguments I might make, they won't make any sense for you because they don't fit with your experience of the forum. For the record, my experience of the forum is different than that of yours. Let's leave it like that.

sorry, but I don't understand what you believe you are missing if you look for new posts my way.  you don't miss ANYTHING my way.
But why would the changes that he wants affect you in any way whatsoever? Why can't he get what he wants and you continue with "new posts"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 12:13
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd.

if all recent topics came from relligious threads it just means there have been no posts to other topics, quite simple. if there had been the musical topics would again be on top; it is the way this is organised. but I don't understand why you don't simply use the "New Posts" feature; it is absolutely sufficient for me. you don't miss any new posts then. it is a much better way to follow all activities. I always use "New Posts" and nothing else to keep informed about anything which has been going on


See, I've highlighted the problem. You're a completely different forum user than I am. No matter what arguments I might make, they won't make any sense for you because they don't fit with your experience of the forum. For the record, my experience of the forum is different than that of yours. Let's leave it like that.

sorry, but I don't understand what you believe you are missing if you look for new posts my way.  you don't miss ANYTHING my way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 12:08
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd.

if all recent topics came from relligious threads it just means there have been no posts to other topics, quite simple. if there had been the musical topics would again be on top; it is the way this is organised. but I don't understand why you don't simply use the "New Posts" feature; it is absolutely sufficient for me. you don't miss any new posts then. it is a much better way to follow all activities. I always use "New Posts" and nothing else to keep informed about anything which has been going on


See, I've highlighted the problem. You're a completely different forum user than I am. No matter what arguments I might make, they won't make any sense for you because they don't fit with your experience of the forum. For the record, my experience of the forum is different than that of yours. Let's leave it like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:59
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd.

if all recent topics came from relligious threads it just means there have been no posts to other topics, quite simple. if there had been the musical topics would again be on top; it is the way this is organised. but I don't understand why you don't simply use the "New Posts" feature; it is absolutely sufficient for me. you don't miss any new posts then. it is a much better way to follow all activities. I always use "New Posts" and nothing else to keep informed about anything which has been going on


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:17
The problem is that you simply don't want to believe me. IT IS difficult to follow the interesting discussions in real time at the rush hour moments. This is why the just for fun threads were excluded from the Recent Posts feature, and this is also why some thread with similar development should, too. I wouldn't be insisting for no reason. And how can you say that non-musical topics "definitely do not get on top of musical ones", when I said explicitly in my opening post that at the moment I was posting, ALL Recent Topics came from one particular religion thread? That's absurd.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 11:04
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".

sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything


No, you can't set anything more flexible than "last fifteen minutes", "last thirty minutes", etc. That's not useful in the evening, for example, when many people are in and posts flow with a rate of 2 to 5 posts per minute (let's say).

but where is the problem with that`? even if many posts in a certain thread you are interested happened, youj can pick up from the last post you jhave read easily. and the suggested changes won't help that "problem" a bit


That would be simple, but I like to keep up with all the active threads while I'm online, not only the ones that are of particular interest for me.

even then there is no problem at all. it is quite easy to keep up with any active threads the way it is now. and non-musical topics definitely do not get on top of musical ones. musical topics are always being listed first. it isi absolutely no problem to follow ALL active threads if you really want to. I don't understand where your problem is


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 10:23
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".

sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything


No, you can't set anything more flexible than "last fifteen minutes", "last thirty minutes", etc. That's not useful in the evening, for example, when many people are in and posts flow with a rate of 2 to 5 posts per minute (let's say).

but where is the problem with that`? even if many posts in a certain thread you are interested happened, youj can pick up from the last post you jhave read easily. and the suggested changes won't help that "problem" a bit


That would be simple, but I like to keep up with all the active threads while I'm online, not only the ones that are of particular interest for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 09:58
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".

sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything


No, you can't set anything more flexible than "last fifteen minutes", "last thirty minutes", etc. That's not useful in the evening, for example, when many people are in and posts flow with a rate of 2 to 5 posts per minute (let's say).

but where is the problem with that`? even if many posts in a certain thread you are interested happened, youj can pick up from the last post you jhave read easily. and the suggested changes won't help that "problem" a bit


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 08:45
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".
...isn't that a self defeating argument Alex? If the frequency of non-irrelevant posts is such that they are being swamped on the Active Topics list then they are probably too slow to show on the "Last 15 Minutes" option of New Posts too.
 
It's 10:00 GMT at the moment - only 1 of the 10 posts on Active Topics appears under the "Last 15 Minutes" New Post - I have to go back to "Last 2 Hours" to see the other 9 posts. When the forum is list dead (158 active users but only 20 members online) neither really show what the latest "hot topic" is/was.


I'm not sure if I understand. Do you mean that at some moments the post rate is very low and what I ask for is not necessary? If so, that's true, but my issue is with the "rush hour" moments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 08:42
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".

sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything


No, you can't set anything more flexible than "last fifteen minutes", "last thirty minutes", etc. That's not useful in the evening, for example, when many people are in and posts flow with a rate of 2 to 5 posts per minute (let's say).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 04:13
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".
...isn't that a self defeating argument Alex? If the frequency of non-irrelevant posts is such that they are being swamped on the Active Topics list then they are probably too slow to show on the "Last 15 Minutes" option of New Posts too.
 
It's 10:00 GMT at the moment - only 1 of the 10 posts on Active Topics appears under the "Last 15 Minutes" New Post - I have to go back to "Last 2 Hours" to see the other 9 posts. When the forum is list dead (158 active users but only 20 members online) neither really show what the latest "hot topic" is/was.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:37
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".

sorry, but I don't see why not. I use it for real time action all the time, without having any problems. as already said, you can set the temporal "bandwidth" for new posts. nothing will escape you if you use that feature; there is absolutely no need to change anything


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:19
The problem is that the New Posts feature isn't useful for short periods, like every few minutes. For keeping up with the replies posted in REAL TIME, the Recent Posts feature is much more useful - unless it's flooded by irrelevant posts.

I too use the New Posts when I come back on the forum after a longer period (a few hours), but after checking out the posts that have been made during this longer period, I can't use it any more; it simply isn't made for real time "action".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 21:14
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ I just responded, read again please.

I still don't see where your problem is. the "New Posts" button lists new posts by sub-forum, and music related sub-forums come first. and you can set for how many hours back you want to see the new posts. I never have any problems with posts from other sub-forums; they ALWAYS appear behind the music-related topics. so where is your problem?


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^ I just responded, read again please.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 20:56
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ The New Posts feature is available only on the Forum Home.

My problem with is that sometimes the post rate in the religious threads is so high that I can't follow the music-related posts in New Posts. It's the same reason for which the Just For Fun section is prohibited in the New Posts feature.

By your logic, we should put Just For Fun in the New Posts, because those posts are new posts too.

I wouldn't mind at all. as already said, if I want the latest posts on music related topics I can always go to the sub-forum. so where is the problerm?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:59
^ The New Posts feature is available only on the Forum Home.

My problem with is that sometimes the post rate in the religious threads is so high that I can't follow the music-related posts in New Posts. It's the same reason for which the Just For Fun section is prohibited in the New Posts feature.

By your logic, we should put Just For Fun in the New Posts, because those posts are new posts too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:48
"New Posts" should show exactly what it does say: "New Posts". if only topics not relating to music appear there then it simply means no post on topics related to music have been posted lately. where is your problem with that? I think it should remain exactly the way it is; you can always go to a certain sub-forum and see the new topics there


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Would it help if there were two "recent posts" lists. One for music topics and one for non-music?
 
I cannot do this myself (of course!), but if there is a strong demand for it, I'm sure M@x would be listening.
I approve.
Or make a Politics and Religion section that doesn't show on "recent posts" like the JFF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2010 at 17:55
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^ Great idea!

I second that.
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