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Interestingly the chord structure for Echoes is very similar (nearly the same) as for Dogs. Or is ot the other way around?
Anyway, another admittedly trite observation. Pink Floyd had epics that were albums, not just excerpts. So TDSOTM, The Wall, Animals, Shine On (maybe the whole WYWH), and Echoes and AHM etc are all epics. In other words The Wall is an entity as much as Echoes. Or looked at another way is Money, Dogs, Shine On et al are excerpts taken out of context. Unlike Saucerful fo Secrets which has related but not linked pieces as the 73 -83 releases.
If you think the above is the Pig's male genitalia just try listening to A Collection Of Great Dance Songs. For an album of 100% great material it doesn't half suck.
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Posted: October 27 2010 at 19:25
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Interestingly the chord structure for Echoes is very similar (nearly the same) as for Dogs. Or is ot the other way around?
Anyway, another admittedly trite observation. Pink Floyd had epics that were albums, not just excerpts. So TDSOTM, The Wall, Animals, Shine On (maybe the whole WYWH), and Echoes and AHM etc are all epics. In other words The Wall is an entity as much as Echoes. Or looked at another way is Money, Dogs, Shine On et al are excerpts taken out of context. Unlike Saucerful fo Secrets which has related but not linked pieces as the 73 -83 releases.
If you think the above is the Pig's male genitalia just try listening to A Collection Of Great Dance Songs. For an album of 100% great material it doesn't half suck.
There, I'm off to check out the PF filmography.
''Echoes'' isn't an album. It's a compilation that came out long after the Floyd was over. ''Meddle'', the album that the song ''Echoes'' comes from, came long before ''Animals'', so the similarities, if there are any, are indeed the other way around. ''Echoes'' came before ''Dogs''.
''Echoes'' isn't an album. It's a compilation that came out long after the Floyd was over. ''Meddle'', the album that the song ''Echoes'' comes from, came long before ''Animals'', so the similarities, if there are any, are indeed the other way around. ''Echoes'' came before ''Dogs''.
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I don't mean Echoes the compilation. I mean the classic piece featured on Meddle. Echoes (the piece) is not an album of course. It is a themed epic though. As is the Wall for example. Epics and themed pieces are not necessarily limited by format. Hope I'm a tad clearer there. Sorry for anymisunderstanding.
Yes, he was given the boot. Mind you as a wage salve at $11K per week he wasn't exactly complaining. Especially after the Wall shows lost his bandmates lodsa dough (15K per show each) then he came out ahead.
What was interesting was founding PF member asking new guy DG if he could play in PF. DG told him "I'll get back to you."
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Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:31
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Echoes, but I perfer the Live At Pompeii version over the studio cut.
It's the same version, just shortened and with the middle portion taken out.
No, it's not the same verion. The Live at Pompeii is a different recording than the one from Meddle (I even wonder if the Live at Pompeii may have been recorded before Meddle was released). And the Live at Pompeii version is, as far as I remember, complete, with the middle section and all, only that it is split in two (as Sine on You Crazy Diamond on the Wish you Were Here album); though I'm not really sure that it is split in all the releases of that video.
was released um, 39 years ago this Hallowe'en. 31 ovt 71. Pompeii scenes were shot over 4 - 9 Oct 71. AFAIK Echoes is split in all versions of the video. There are several versions as well - owing to some footage being lost as it was edited and re-released a few times over 72 -74. Some nonsense about wanting to be up to date. DSOTM being released etc.
The most ridiculous tihng... Seamus not only being on Meddle but retitled and appearing as Mademoiselle Nobbs in the film. (Increased royalties,?giving the dog a bone?) It doesn't quite ruin such classic material but hardly enhances it either.
What would be nice is an official release of the Echoes / Crystal Voyager video. All that slow motion waves and water footage that was played live (the Floyd and the filmmakers made an exchange agreement) would be rather appealing.
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Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:43
^ I don't find Mademoiselle Nobbs as puting down the Pompeii video, it's even somewhat enjoyable. And I think it's much less annoying than Seamus (perhaps because it doesn't include vocals). I love Live at Pompeii, with Mademoiselle Nobbs included. Strangely enough, I do feel Seamus puts down Meddle.
If it was a movie thing alone it would be amusing and fun. But as it's both a studio release, a live release, as well as a ...er, instrumental.. Seamus, the dog, should not have been on the album. IMHO.
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Posted: October 28 2010 at 23:33
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If it was a movie thing alone it would be amusing and fun. But as it's both a studio release, a live release, as well as a ...er, instrumental.. Seamus, the dog, should not have been on the album. IMHO.
But it was the only opportunity to see a member of Humble Pie singing with Pink Floyd.
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If it was a movie thing alone it would be amusing and fun. But as it's both a studio release, a live release, as well as a ...er, instrumental.. Seamus, the dog, should not have been on the album. IMHO.
But it was the only opportunity to see a member of Humble Pie singing with Pink Floyd.
Yes, true. I understand this. But why oh why did he have to guest on the album?
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Sorry for anymisunderstanding. 
Seamus, the dog, should not have been on the album. IMHO.
