Greatest Pink Floyd Epic
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Topic: Greatest Pink Floyd Epic
Posted By: 40footwolf
Subject: Greatest Pink Floyd Epic
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:52
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"Epic", in this context, is meant to describe their songs which are greater than 10 minutes in length. I made an exception for "Interstellar Overdrive" because, I mean...come on, it's "Interstellar Overdrive", how could I NOT included it in a list like this? Anyhow-pick your favorite! My vote goes for first half of "Shine On", personally. "Dogs" is a very close second. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:56
Goddamn, I accidentally voted for Shine On I-V, I meant to vote for Echoes. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:57
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Echoes.
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Posted By: spookytooth
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 22:59
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Echoes is my favorite (especially after my brother showed me the whole thing with Echoes synching up with 2001). My second favorite is one that kinda goes under the radar: Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast, which I think is one of their best songs.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:10
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"Atom Heart Mother" is a terrific suite and will get my vote.
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Posted By: javier0889
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:11
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The one that opens Wish You Were Here. Epic. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/javier0889 |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:15
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First of all, just because a song is long doesn't mean it is an epic secondly, I voted for one that definitely isn't an epic: Saucerful |
Posted By: chemebien
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:18
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Dogs, but today is Echoes
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:23
Hence the first sentence, which says "For these purposes". ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Triceratopsoil wrote:Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:36
| but that's a false context; there is NO context in which the word epic is primarily based on the length of something. Why didn't you say best songs over 10 minutes? |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: October 07 2010 at 23:57
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Echoes IMO the only contender would be Shine on... If it were in one full track (I to IX) ------------- |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 00:28
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Shine On VI-IX. It's Wolf's poll, so he gets to set the context. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 01:32
| Atom Heart is for me more important than all other combined. |
Posted By: sarge
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 01:58
| Shine On is lame. Echoes all the way. |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 02:24
1. noting or pertaining to a long poetic composition, usually centered upon a hero, in which a series of great achievements or events is narrated in elevated style:Homer's Iliad is an epic poem. 2. resembling or suggesting such poetry: an epic novel on the founding of the country. 3. heroic; majestic; impressively great: the epic events of the war. 4. of unusually great size or extent: a crime wave of epic proportions. If you're going to be condescending and pedantic, at the very least try to be right. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 02:54
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With Echoes having enough votes and The Narrow Way none, it's easy for me to vote for the latter. ------------- 
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 02:57
| Nothing beats Shine On Ya' Crazy Diamond, and I choose part I - V |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 04:23
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 05:00
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Echoes. Absolutely her best. I think similar polls have been created already and Echoes won every time. I totally agree about Interstellar Overdive, but apart Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast all of them are masterpieces. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 05:17
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Echoes of course. Whatever the question is, if Echoes features in the list that4s the one I go for.  |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 05:19
Did I write "her best?" I was meaning "Their" of course  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Shevrzl
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 05:25
| Going with Dogs |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 06:38
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I don't like PF very much but Dogs is great Masterpiece - their best work no doubt. ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 07:05
 Nice pic |
Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 09:20
 All time fav.
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 10:14
| Dogs. Animals is there best album. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 10:18
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Aren't Sysyphus and The Narrow way solo works? Maybe you mean Greatyest epic on a Floyd album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 12:12
This...er...these! Woof! ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 13:09
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Tricky one. I voted for Echoes, but I love shine on 1-5, Atom Heart mother, Saucer, the narrow way, pigs, etc.......as I said very tricky....
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 13:25
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could have voted for almost any of the options giving some love to
Atom Heart Mother ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: mEP
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 13:53
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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 14:05
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Dogs for me.
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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 14:38
Oh now don't YOU start in... ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 14:44
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Echoes is lame! SOYCD all the way... the WHOLE song. ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Show Don't Tell
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 14:47
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Posted By: DeKay
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 17:42
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Echoes of course |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 17:46
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Either Echoes, Shine On, or one of the Animals tracks.
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Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 23:33
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Pigs for me. Doesn't seem to be a very popular choice...but damn, it takes my breath away. Of course this could also be said of Echoes, Atom Heart Mother etc., but Animals is my favorite Floyd release, and Pigs is its height for me. The tipping factor, of course, are Wright's beautiful, stark glissandi. ------------- Certified Obscure Prog Fart. http://scottjcouturier.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Loose Palace of Exile - My first novel, The Mask of Tamrel, now available on Amazon and Kindle |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 08 2010 at 23:49
1. The emphasis of this one is the great achievements etc. 2. and 3. not relevant 4. 10 minutes is by no stretch of the imagination "of unusually great size or extent" when it comes to progressive rock |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 01:09
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Epic is a very multifaceted word. It can mean many things. In this case, in this very specific context, I have delegated it to mean songs over 10 minutes, because 10 minutes is a rather long time for a Pink Floyd song-notice how there are only a little more than ten?-and because it's easier to use this criteria than to make up some completely arbitrary system and have people asking why I included "Us and Them" and not "[fill in Personal Favorite Pink Floyd Song here]. You can continue to be pedantic, petty and misinformed, or you can hop off my jock and go somewhere else. I've done nothing wrong in regards to language or anything else. Why you insist on (wrongly) harping on my vocabulary errors is a mystery to me, but I'd request that you quit cluttering up the thread with this nonsense, if that's okay with you. ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 02:49
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I stand by all my previous assertions, "epic" is a term thrown around far too often by ignorami |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:23
Interesting that you would stand by previous assessments that you won't bother to defend. Also, if that was a veiled attempt at calling me stupid, A) you're wrong and B) have a little class, eh?
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 03:42
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 12:57
No, I'm quite sure |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:19
I'm not sure if you're joking or not... ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Lozlan
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:46
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Can't believe so many people are voting for Saucerful...I always thought it was a tuneless amalgamation of noise. Maybe I should listen to it again.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:54
It's a sort of symphony in three movements. Try the version from the Pompeii DVD.  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: mEP
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 20:12
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 10:11
| Shine on you first part. The other great ones are Shine on you last part, Dogs and Echoes. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 11 2010 at 17:58
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Just thought I'd mention, if it has not been mentioned before, Set The Controls For The Heart Of TheSun was usually performed at more than 10 mins and if one can have Interstellar Overdrive. and why not indeed! one should have this. To me this piece defines this era of PF more than any other. Set The Controls on Ummagumma is faded half way through (this album really needs a re thought by PF.) I know it's one of the great live albums but it's still not good enough. With CD and DVD tecnology we could and should have a proper Ummagumma era live album. And if you see DG, RW, or NM you can quote me!  I have no idea which to vote. I assume Narrow Way and Sysyphus are there because PF performed them live not that we are officially supposed to know that unless we were there at 1969 and 1970 concerts. Not easy for me. As a slight matter of irrelevance/ irreverence DSOTM was performed as Eclipse, a single piece that is merely indexed. Wonder if that counts? |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 05:00
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Atom Heart Mother, definitely.
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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 08:43
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If "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" were listed as one song, I might vote for that one because it is, in my opinion, their best song ever; but my all-time personal favorite by them is the Atom Heart Mother suite, so I'll give that one my vote here. ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:35
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dogs is their best for sure. ------------- It is all a dream, a dream in death... |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 11:37
| SOYCD pts. 1-5. |
Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 13:33
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Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 13:37
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Posted By: nordwind
Date Posted: October 12 2010 at 19:21
Echoes  ------------- Jazz isn't dead.......it just smells funny. Frank Zappa / Live in New York |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 05:18
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Echoes seems to easy, but it really is my favorite. |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 08:03
Atom Heart Mother is my fav PF epic and i voted that one. I love Dogs and other epics too. Strange enough, I hate Shine On with a passion
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Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 16:26
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Echoes hits the sweet spot for me, personally. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mushroom Sword
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 17:46
Even if the question is, "Worst song ever written?" or "Song most closely defining the rap/ hip-hop genre?" Also, I voted for Dogs. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 18:38
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Interestingly the chord structure for Echoes is very similar (nearly the same) as for Dogs. Or is ot the other way around? Anyway, another admittedly trite observation. Pink Floyd had epics that were albums, not just excerpts. So TDSOTM, The Wall, Animals, Shine On (maybe the whole WYWH), and Echoes and AHM etc are all epics. In other words The Wall is an entity as much as Echoes. Or looked at another way is Money, Dogs, Shine On et al are excerpts taken out of context. Unlike Saucerful fo Secrets which has related but not linked pieces as the 73 -83 releases. If you think the above is the Pig's male genitalia just try listening to A Collection Of Great Dance Songs. For an album of 100% great material it doesn't half suck.  There, I'm off to check out the PF filmography. |
Posted By: guitargods2009
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 19:15
| Echoes, but I perfer the Live At Pompeii version over the studio cut. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 19:25
''Echoes'' isn't an album. It's a compilation that came out long after the Floyd was over. ''Meddle'', the album that the song ''Echoes'' comes from, came long before ''Animals'', so the similarities, if there are any, are indeed the other way around. ''Echoes'' came before ''Dogs''.
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 19:26
It's the same version, just shortened and with the middle portion taken out.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 20:21
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. [/QUOTE] ''Echoes'' isn't an album. It's a compilation that came out long after the Floyd was over. ''Meddle'', the album that the song ''Echoes'' comes from, came long before ''Animals'', so the similarities, if there are any, are indeed the other way around. ''Echoes'' came before ''Dogs''. [/QUOTE]I don't mean Echoes the compilation. I mean the classic piece featured on Meddle. Echoes (the piece) is not an album of course. It is a themed epic though. As is the Wall for example. Epics and themed pieces are not necessarily limited by format. Hope I'm a tad clearer there.  Sorry for anymisunderstanding.  And yes, I know Echoes was before Dogs. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 20:50
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Pink Floyd talk a bit about their new album Meddle, thought you guys might like this one.... ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 22:03
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Echoes and then Dogs slightly after... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Neil-Kobrin/244687105562746" rel="nofollow - SUPPORT MY FATHER AND BECOME A FAN Jacob Kobrin Illustration |
Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 15:41
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Great vid above ^. Rick wanting to do a big theatrical album surprised me; wasn't he fired during The Wall for being lazy?
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 16:00
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Yes, he was given the boot. Mind you as a wage salve at $11K per week he wasn't exactly complaining. Especially after the Wall shows lost his bandmates lodsa dough (15K per show each) then he came out ahead. What was interesting was founding PF member asking new guy DG if he could play in PF. DG told him "I'll get back to you." |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 21:31
No, it's not the same verion. The Live at Pompeii is a different recording than the one from Meddle (I even wonder if the Live at Pompeii may have been recorded before Meddle was released). And the Live at Pompeii version is, as far as I remember, complete, with the middle section and all, only that it is split in two (as Sine on You Crazy Diamond on the Wish you Were Here album); though I'm not really sure that it is split in all the releases of that video. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:00
| I go with Shine On... I like better to think of it all as a 23 min epic, but if I have to choose, then it's the first half. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:27
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was released um, 39 years ago this Hallowe'en. 31 ovt 71. Pompeii scenes were shot over 4 - 9 Oct 71. AFAIK Echoes is split in all versions of the video. There are several versions as well - owing to some footage being lost as it was edited and re-released a few times over 72 -74. Some nonsense about wanting to be up to date. DSOTM being released etc. The most ridiculous tihng... Seamus not only being on Meddle but retitled and appearing as Mademoiselle Nobbs in the film. (Increased royalties,?giving the dog a bone?) It doesn't quite ruin such classic material but hardly enhances it either. What would be nice is an official release of the Echoes / Crystal Voyager video. All that slow motion waves and water footage that was played live (the Floyd and the filmmakers made an exchange agreement) would be rather appealing. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:43
| ^ I don't find Mademoiselle Nobbs as puting down the Pompeii video, it's even somewhat enjoyable. And I think it's much less annoying than Seamus (perhaps because it doesn't include vocals). I love Live at Pompeii, with Mademoiselle Nobbs included. Strangely enough, I do feel Seamus puts down Meddle. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:55
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If it was a movie thing alone it would be amusing and fun. But as it's both a studio release, a live release, as well as a ...er, instrumental.. Seamus, the dog, should not have been on the album. IMHO.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 22:56
| Still yet to vote... is the Saucer on here the Ummagumma version (worship) or the studio... (good idea...) |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: October 28 2010 at 23:33
But it was the only opportunity to see a member of Humble Pie singing with Pink Floyd. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 29 2010 at 00:50
Yes, true. I understand this. But why oh why did he have to guest on the album?
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Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: October 31 2010 at 08:36
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Greatest Pink Floyd epic - did they do one?
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