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Ian F. 
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Joined: January 08 2011 Status: Offline Points: 7 |
 Topic: Tolkien in ProgPosted: January 20 2011 at 16:00 |
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Anyone mention Mithrandir?
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Chris S
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Posted: January 19 2011 at 04:13 |
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: January 18 2011 at 23:46 |
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Like this? |
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Michael's Sonic Kaleidoscope Mondays 5:00pm EST(re-runs Thursdays 3:00pm) @ Delicious Agony Progressive Rock Radio(http://www.deliciousagony.com)
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Nerd42
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Posted: January 18 2011 at 17:09 |
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i wish there was more Lewis prog like this. Somebody should do a prog version of "Perelandra" or "That Hideous Strength"
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CloseToTheMoon
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Joined: September 28 2010 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 223 |
Posted: January 18 2011 at 07:48 |
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Will do. I'm starting a short playlist and compiling my favorite scenes as we speak.
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It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.
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Earendil
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Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
Posted: January 17 2011 at 14:00 |
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I don't know, but be sure to post them somewhere if you do! |
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CloseToTheMoon
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Posted: January 17 2011 at 13:53 |
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I've been wanting to re-edit scenes from the LoTR Trilogy using Prog as the score, Tolkien inspired or otherwise. Anyone know if this would be easier with iMovie, or Adobe Premiere?
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It's funny how the colors of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen.
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Ronnie Pilgrim
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Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
Posted: January 16 2011 at 20:32 |
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How about Tolkien in progressive comedy? A poster on another thread made me think of this but I thought it was more suited to this thread. It's a wee bit long but well worth it. Enjoy.
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Fyrus
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Joined: January 13 2011 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 44 |
Posted: January 14 2011 at 05:31 |
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"all their life on Tolkien's ground"
Fandango - Pain of Salvation.
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silverpot
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Posted: January 12 2011 at 15:00 |
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Of course I remember Isildurs Bane.
 And thanks for the other clips. |
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ProgressiveAttic
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Posted: January 11 2011 at 23:55 |
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You're welcome! If you enjoyed it check out the other projects by these guys (not much more Tolkien inspired material though...)... I'll give you some samples: *Ktzat Acheret (their collaboration with virtuoso guitarist Schlomo Ydov) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3261 *Sheshet (this is a prog with jazzy inclinations project by flutist/pianist/singer Shem-Tov Levi) http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3989 *Singer/keyboardist Schlomo Gronich (he is more of an Avant-Garde musician with strong prog inclinations): *Shem-Tov Levi (very jazz/fusion inclined): Since this is a Tolkien thread lets include some Tolkien inspired prog to return to the subject: Who remembers that classical piece inspired by LOTR? |
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Michael's Sonic Kaleidoscope Mondays 5:00pm EST(re-runs Thursdays 3:00pm) @ Delicious Agony Progressive Rock Radio(http://www.deliciousagony.com)
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silverpot
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Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:07 |
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Big thanks to ProgressivAttic for posting that Youtube clip. I really enjoyed it.
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Livae
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Posted: January 11 2011 at 06:01 |
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Ainur are an italian band inspired by Tolkien's Silmarillion.
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Dellinger
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Posted: January 10 2011 at 22:16 |
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^ The Children of Hurin, it's a book about Turin Turambar (mainly the same story found on The Silmarillion, but more complete).
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The Deacon
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Posted: January 10 2011 at 08:37 |
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Since this thread has (most predictably) gone off-topic bigtime, few should be further grieved if one should ask of the anoraks here:
whats good (Christopher) Tolkien reading after "Silmarillion"?
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The Deacon
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Joined: January 09 2011 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 23 |
Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:55 |
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Here are some tracks from my collection (prog,folk & psych): Arkangel - march of Ents (US) Skip Bifferty - hobbit (UK) Black Sun Ensemble - riders of Rohan (US) Citadel of Cynosure - escaping Nepthon (US) Mickey D's Unicorn - black rider -a elbereth (I think German, because on Schultze's label) Elephant's Memory - old man willow (Us) Gandalf - mysterious creatures gathering at gates of darkness (Austria) Gandalf the Grey - from Grey Havens (US) Patrick Gleason - hobbits are dancing (UK) Harmonia -Gollum (germ) Hobbits - down to middleearth (US) Improved Sound Ltd - dark lord (germ) Jade Warrior - Barazinbar (uk) Kandahar - hobbit (belgium) Khazad-Dum - Balrog descending (Can) John Lees - long ships (Uk) Madrugada - hobbit (IT) Neigb'rhood Children - hobbit's dream (US?) Didier Paquette - cavaliers de Rohan (Fr) Dave Pike Set - Middle Earth Heard (Uk) Prudence - Gandalf (Norway) Tables - Lord of Rings (Nor) Try - Bilbo Baggins (Germ) Twink - unexpected party (Uk) Vulcans Hammer - ri (UK) Adrian Wagner - ring lords (Uk) |
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Chris S
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 20:30 |
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 Yeah whatver ever happend to Glorfindel and what about the mystery surrounding him??? First age v Third Age? Same person? The only flaw in Tolkiens history and Glorfindol should have been the one to escort the hobbits with Aragorn to Bruinen.
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Ian F.
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Posted: January 08 2011 at 19:35 |
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Ah, I was going to say the exact same thing
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maani
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Posted: January 06 2011 at 09:23 |
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Lozlan and Earendil:
One man's "slavishness" is another man's "authenticity." And while I agree that "faithfulness" to the text does not always equal "quality" filmmaking (or even storytelling), I believe that a large part of why people see "slavishness" (and "bad" storytelling/filmmaking) instead of "authenticity/faithfulness" (but "good" storytelling/filmmaking) is patience and attention span. Let me give you an example.
When the film Watchmen came out, there were two very polar camps. One felt that the slavish devotion to the original story "bogged down" the film. The other camp felt that the film was actually "enhanced" by the faithfulness to the original source, and not "giving in" to the Hollywood temptation to remove or simplify subtexts, or excise material simply to have the film run more "smoothly." (Still a third camp argued that it was not faithful ENOUGH!) This debate raged in the pages of major newspapers and magazines.
I came to the film not having read the original source material, and thus was completely neutral in the debate, though I knew it was occurring. Having seen the film, I found myself agreeing with the second group, even though I agree that the film did have a few "slower' parts, and that it might have been more continuously "eye-catching" (read "action-packed") had they been excised. But I appreciated that the filmmakers stayed true to the source, even at the risk of "slowing down" the film (read "making people think" and - OMG! - show some patience...).
I have not suggested that Jackson's films are anything but a towering achievement, including in their depiction of Tolkien's world, and even re storytelling and filmmaking. However, I believe that at least part (if not much) of the problem you have with Bakshi's version is impatience with the "slavishness" (faithfulness) to the source, since the film may not seem to "flow" as well as it might otherwise.
Ultimately, both versions have their merits; denigrating one while lauding the other is simply wrong.
Peace.
P.S. BTW, at the risk of sounding "one-upping," Lozlan, I don't know how old you are, but I would guess I am somewhat older than you. In this regard, having read all of Tolkien (including the obscure stuff) at least 30 times, I feel as strongly as you do about Middle Earth and Tolkien's vision. This was why I was SO annoyed with Jackson for adding the Aragorn/Arwen story INTO the screenplay (thus bogging it down), and ascribing the river-rising and water-horse aspects of the Battle of the Ford at Bruinen to Arwen rather than Elrond and Gandalf. (Of course, neither film has the right person taking Frodo to Rivendell; in Bakshi, it is Legolas; in Jackson, it is Arwen. Neither is correct.) I am equally annoyed with Jackson for spending three years and zillions of dollars, and then NOT including the Scouring of the Shire (even though he showed it in Galadriel's mirror!), and Frodo and Gandalf's departure from Middle Earth.
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Dellinger
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Posted: January 05 2011 at 23:05 |
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Thanks, I hope to be able to get that album sometime in this year. And yes, I had noticed Anderson doesn't sing on all this songs, and that most songs (for what little can be heard on the link from each one) are very nice. By the way, there's a David Arkenstone album about Middle Earth which, though not prog at all, I found more rewarding than I was expecting when I bought it; it is all instrumental and in general rather beautiful. |
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ProgressiveAttic wrote:
<---(my reaction to most contemporary symphonic prog.)As a result of my Blind Guardian-related disillusionment, I tend to be pretty leery of Tolkien-influenced music, especially where metal is involved...I can't help but visualize a gathering of peaceful, merry Hobbits clutching their hands over their ears and wailing with fright. Similarly, imagining a bunch of headbanging Norsemen in a Rohirric mead hall gives me gas. I do enjoy some of the subtler, more fluid Tolkien-inspired prog: a classic example of this would be Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider by Camel, which benefits from not going overboard on the lyrics. Similarly, I enjoy the way Led Zeppelin peppers their lyrics with Middle-Earth imagery, and The Necromancer by Rush is a great example of paying tribute without making said tribute comical or thunderous. Or both.Really I genuinely believe that Middle-Earth does not rock in the slightest. There is nothing progressive, nothing brash or rebellious about Tolkien's narrative; rather we have a return to pre-Industrial simplicities and ideals. There is a teleology at play which defies rock n' roll, not to mention automobiles and smokestacks and every other modernist trapping. Tolkien rock feels alien, and wrong, and very misguided, at least to this joint Tolkienist and progressive rock devotee. However, it also kind of makes me feel a little warm and fuzzy inside. I love watching people who love a text interact with that text, whether their interaction takes the form of a simple blog post or a sprawling double-album replete with a gatefold designed to imitate the Book of Mazarbul.Also, just on a closing note, is there some reason that no one ever records prog songs about Hobbits? Everyone is so busy writing about Elves, and Dark Lords, and battles, and swords, that they miss what's really important in Tolkien's work: tiny little people with hairy feet and huge appetites and wills of tempered steel.EDIT: Anyone who thinks that Ralph Bakshi's horrible, horrible animated Lord of the Rings even remotely approaches the glory and eucatastrophe of Tolkien's masterpiece should be fed to a fuzzy-slipper-wearing Balrog. Give me the animated Rankin-Bass Return of the King before you force me to endure such blinding crap.