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Topic: The Battle of Battles
Posted By: LAM-SGC
Subject: The Battle of Battles
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 01:12
"...we took a little bacon, and we took a little beans, and we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans..." :)



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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 01:26
Genesis, easy
The Running Wild song is great, too.


Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 01:26
Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:11
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.


See, I'm the polar opposite, I really like More Fool Me and can't stand Epping Forest.


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:22
Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Genesis, easy
The Running Wild song is great, too.


Yes it is a very good song, they were a very good band, most of the German metal bands are.

Early Scorpions for example is in my 70s hard rock Trilogy along with 70s Uriah Heep & Wishbone Ash.

The Manowar and Johnny Horton obviously added just for comedic value, that said the Horton song is still a great singalong, still a fav from hearing it as a kid.

But as a big fan of metal, every time I hear any ridiculous overblown Manowar song I just burst out laughing and think of Spinal Tap.


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:25
Count me as Epping Forest sceptic. Not hater - sceptic. I LIKE this song, at times I even enjoy all its parts and quirks. But I don't think it's good enough to compete with other SEBTP classics, it lacks direction sometimes. Excellent bits are mixed with merely "good" ones.

This time I'll go with less complex The Battle of Evermore which has just fantastic atmosphere and arrangements. Tolkien-Zeppelin marriage at its best.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:26
I only know the first two songs in the poll and I'm going with Genesis. Smile


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:30
Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Count me as Epping Forest sceptic. Not hater - sceptic. I LIKE this song, at times I even enjoy all its parts and quirks. But I don't think it's good enough to compete with other SEBTP classics, it lacks direction sometimes. Excellent bits are mixed with merely "good" ones.

This time I'll go with less complex The Battle of Evermore which has just fantastic atmosphere and arrangements. Tolkien-Zeppelin marriage at its best.


It is that atmosphere which makes it ny favourite Led Zeppelin song of all time. The first time I heard it, I was shocked at how good it was and how it made me feel and how it still makes me want to go for a walk in the forest, luckily I live right next to lots of forest.


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:32
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


I only know the first two songs in the poll and I'm going with Genesis. Smile


That's perfectly okay, it was supposed to be a two horse race. But do listen to the Running Wild song. You might like it :)


Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:36
Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

It is that atmosphere which makes it ny favourite Led Zeppelin song of all time. The first time I heard it, I was shocked at how good it was and how it made me feel and how it still makes me want to go for a walk in the forest, luckily I live right next to lots of forest.


I tend to think of highlands, hills, valleys and mountain ranges. Still the same boat! Definitely a "fantasy" piece with loads of nature undertones.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:37
^^ It'll be interesting to see if "Running Wild" picks up any votes against the two mighty giants of prog at the top of the poll. It could be an epic battle. Smile


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 02:58
Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

It is that atmosphere which makes it ny favourite Led Zeppelin song of all time. The first time I heard it, I was shocked at how good it was and how it made me feel and how it still makes me want to go for a walk in the forest, luckily I live right next to lots of forest.


I tend to think of highlands, hills, valleys and mountain ranges. Still the same boat! Definitely a "fantasy" piece with loads of nature undertones.


Yes, exactly so. And ironically that one LZ song contained imagery for me in a way that no prog album ever did. I got a similar vibe from Grantchester Meadows, that also made me want to go outdoors.


Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 03:25
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.
EXACTLY how I feel. Love Zeppelin too but voted Genesis because so many people hate this song. LOL: I actually have the Johnny Horton record, it was my dad's and one of his favorites.
I was 7 or 8 when he used to play it on my folks' stereo console. Now that I'm grown I realize the lyrics very well might be offensive to a lot of people on this site. But I can still hear my father (died in '87) singing:

"Yeah, they ran through the briars
And they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes
Where the rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast
That the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico"


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Posted By: thief
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 03:35
Originally posted by progmatic progmatic wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.
EXACTLY how I feel. Love Zeppelin too but voted Genesis because so many people hate this song. LOL: I actually have the Johnny Horton record, it was my dad's and one of his favorites.
I was 7 or 8 when he used to play it on my folks' stereo console. Now that I'm grown I realize the lyrics very well might be offensive to a lot of people on this site. But I can still hear my father (died in '87) singing:

"Yeah, they ran through the briars
And they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes
Where the rabbit couldn't go
They ran so fast
That the hounds couldn't catch 'em
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico"


Thanks for sharing that memory!


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 04:10
Epping Forest over Nevermore (lovely Zep tune, really)

haven't heard the rest. 


Posted By: Enchant X
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 04:34
Another predictable easy win for genesis ... hardly much competition perhaps led zep much get some votes  


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 05:32
I dig Epping Forest . . .

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 08:13
I'll take Battle of Evermore. Zeppelin and Sandy Denny. Next would be Johnny Horton. 

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 08:16
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I'll take Battle of Evermore. Zeppelin and Sandy Denny. Next would be Johnny Horton. 


We are very much on the same page. I've got Sandy playing in the car right now actually.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 08:17
Guess which battle I picked! Yee ha!

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 08:37
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.

100%---but still find it perfect prog album.Big smile


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 08:51
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:


Guess which battle I picked! Yee ha!


The South Will rise again. And Yea, those Redcoats can feck off back across the Pond.    


Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 09:00
how about "The Battle of the Glass Tears" (a section of King Crimson's 23-minutes epic "Lizard")?


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 09:37
What about The Battle off Strawbs debut? Great track.

I love TBOEF. The lyrics are brilliantly funny if you lived in the 70s, understand rhyming slang and were born in Essex.


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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 09:41
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

What about The Battle off Strawbs debut? Great track.

 
Yeah man! I'm very biased but I think it's best thing that Dave Cousins ever wrote.

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 09:47
I will go with Zeppelin on this one

also could go with

Ogre Battle   by  Queen


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Prog On!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 09:56
I'm not a huge fan, but easily Genesis. 

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Posted By: DarkTower
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 10:24
Led Zeppelin 


Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 11:17
Originally posted by digdug digdug wrote:

I will go with Zeppelin on this one

also could go with

Ogre Battle   by  Queen


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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:23
The Genesis mini prog epic...The Zep track isn't prog...

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Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:24
Epping Forest closely followed by Evermore.

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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:25
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Epping Forest all day, son. A very hated track that I personally LOVE, and one of my favorite moments off of SEBT. If only they left off More Fool Me, it would be a perfect prog record...Wink Cool.


100%---but still find it perfect prog album.Big smile

I HEAR YOU BROTHER!

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Play me my song.....Here it comes again.......


Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:26
Lovemongers do a great version of Battle of Evermore.

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PROGMATIC


Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 12:44
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

how about "The Battle of the Glass Tears" (a section of King Crimson's 23-minutes epic "Lizard")?


I must admit I am not a huge fan of KC, I like Red and Itcotck and Islands. I've only listened to Lizard once and that was many years ago, so sorry I don't know it.


Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 13:55
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

What about The Battle off Strawbs debut? Great track.

 
Yeah man! I'm very biased but I think it's best thing that Dave Cousins ever wrote.

A real masterpiece! In its absence, I'll go for Liquid Len and his Smash Bottle Men!

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 17:03
How can Epping Forest be winning... such an annoying song ruining a wonderful album (at least More Fool me is short and forgettable, I can stand that one within the album). Battle of Evermore easily for me.


Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 17:55
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

How can Epping Forest be winning... such an annoying song ruining a wonderful album (at least More Fool me is short and forgettable, I can stand that one within the album). Battle of Evermore easily for me.
Epping Forest wouldn't be winning if it was in a Genesis poll. Smile


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 18:52
Genesis

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 20:08
Voted tor Genesis. would have voted for "Ogre Battle" by Queen if it was on the list. 


Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: February 19 2020 at 20:09
Voter for Genesis. I would have voter for "Ogre Ballte" by Queen, if it was on the list. 


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 00:02
I voted for Battle of Epping Forest with enthusiasm. Great song, nice guitar licks, nice variety of parts with different moods and well-orchestrated transitions. And people don’t like it. Well, just listen to me. I know what’s good.

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Posted By: M27Barney
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 00:37
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I voted for Battle of Epping Forest with enthusiasm. Great song, nice guitar licks, nice variety of parts with different moods and well-orchestrated transitions. And people don’t like it. Well, just listen to me. I know what’s good.

Aye. Perhaps some of the language, knob, prick etc is too much for some snowflakes?

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 00:52
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I voted for Battle of Epping Forest with enthusiasm. Great song, nice guitar licks, nice variety of parts with different moods and well-orchestrated transitions. And people don’t like it. Well, just listen to me. I know what’s good.

Aye. Perhaps some of the language, knob, prick etc is too much for some snowflakes?


I don't think the language bothers anyone who listens to prog. Also, I don't think there are many new people who listen to Genesis nowadays, if the generations under 40 are anything to go by.


Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 06:54
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

I voted for Battle of Epping Forest with enthusiasm. Great song, nice guitar licks, nice variety of parts with different moods and well-orchestrated transitions. And people don’t like it. Well, just listen to me. I know what’s good.
And because of Steve Hackett's excellent guitar playing. Wink

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Posted By: Mudpuppy64
Date Posted: February 20 2020 at 11:05
I voted for Genesis .   but i like Wild Turkeys Battle Hymn also


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 21 2020 at 03:28
Rick Wakeman - The Battle (From Journey to the Centre of Earth)


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Posted By: Machinemessiah
Date Posted: February 21 2020 at 06:03
Zeppelin this time.

Love the jazzy Epping.

A nod to Johnny Horton  ...I like that stuff!

Originally posted by thief thief wrote:

...

This time I'll go with less complex The Battle of Evermore which has just fantastic atmosphere and arrangements. Tolkien-Zeppelin marriage at its best.
 
^ Well said. Clap   

Notable song and magnific antechamber to 'Stairway to Heaven' (We, guitar enthusiasts that had to endlessly rewind the tape to try to tackle Stairway always heard that magical and exotic (mandolin?) fade away of 'Battle').



Edit: (looks like a Zeppelin spree is due..! 
Stairway to Heaven already in
Next: something on Led Zeppelin II …   Lemon Song or What is and what should never be  Smile)




Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 21 2020 at 09:08
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I'll take Battle of Evermore. Zeppelin and Sandy Denny. Next would be Johnny Horton. 


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