Genesis Live
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Topic: Genesis Live
Posted By: Rick1
Subject: Genesis Live
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 03:21
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To mark the last ever Genesis gig in London on Saturday, what is your favourite live album of theirs? I really wish I had got a ticket now but I did see them three times over the years. There are moments of brilliance across all these albums...farewell Genesis and Phil in particular; so sad what has happened to him.
(PS: I realise I have just skated over the Archives releases which have some great live material on them...but not released as 'live' albums as such. Oh well, I am sure this will be pointed out to me...)
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 03:28
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Seconds Out ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 03:42
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I could choose anything except The Way We Walk. Back in 2004, a friend of mine had a Genesis live album from the ATTW3 tour, obviously a bootleg but the quality was great. I remember I burned my own copy which I listened a lot back then.
 A shame I don't have it anymore and don't know where and how to get it back.   |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 03:51
Only 'Burning Rope' from that tour got an official release on 'Archives'. Shame. I saw them at Knebworth in 78 and they were great!
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Cristi wrote:Posted By: Ronstein
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 04:12
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LIVE! Everything that Genesis was about.
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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 04:38
The only one I've heard from that tour is this one: https://rateyourmusic.com/release/unauth/genesis/live-from-the-mouth-of-the-monster/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/release/unauth/genesis/live-from-the-mouth-of-the-monster/ It is one of the better bootlegs I've listened to. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 04:40
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I chose Seconds Out. I missed an opportunity to see them in 1987 when they came to Philadelphia. Wish that I had. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 05:40
| Live and Seconds Out. Both are really good to my ears and bring a lot of great memories. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 05:57
Seconds Out by quite a margin (a full disc, actually ) , though if their first Live album had been a double one (there was sufficient material to do so), I'd probably like it as much.------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 06:21
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Seconds Out, a hair above Live. Both are awesome. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 06:34
| Seconds Out! |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 07:04
'Live', Peter Gabriel (at his Genesis best), Phil Collins (on full time drums) and Steve Hackett. NUFF said. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 07:08
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Can anyone seriously vote for any of the latter 4 choices??? I've always really liked Live, but it's Seconds Out all the way for me... one of THE greatest live albums by any band...
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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 07:16
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While Seconds Out certainly has a solid playlist, I have to go with the original Genesis Live album, but it has to be the remastered Live in Leicester Dutch Pressing which includes Supper's Ready. Absolutely stellar ! ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 07:24
| Live, with or without the extras. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 08:08
| Seconds Out----one of the best live albums ever---shocking Phil could do this so early in replacing Peter. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 10:12
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Seconds Out is a classic, but I do really like the Live Over Europe set. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 11:20
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Live. It has it all for that era of the band. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 16:56
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I voted for Seconds Out. I could have seen them for ATTW3 tour but the only seats available were nosebleed level, so my and I passed. Instead, we saw Foghat. They put on more of a show than I anticipated - costumes, a cool stage design, light show, and dynamic performances. Phil Collins looks so frail now ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: cemego
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 18:06
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Gotta have Seconds Out. My favorite genesis is 76-80 genesis. ------------- listen to streaming stuff! no commercials! http://wmom.servemp3.com:8000/listen.pls |
Posted By: EduTatsumi
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 19:35
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Unfortunately Genesis doesn't have a true classic live album. "Genesis Live" is too short and only features songs from two of the four classically lined up albums. "Seconds Out" does not have Peter Gabriel's vocals. The other three I won't even comment because it's from the pop era. I will vote for Seconds Out. A band as important as Genesis deserved a big and long live album on the level of "Yessongs", "A Live Record" (Camel), "Bursting Out", "Playing the Fool" (Gentle Giant), "Real Time" ( VDGG), "Live and Let Live" (Twelfth Night), "Space Ritual" (Hawkwind), "Welcome Back My Friends to the Show That Never Ends" (ELP), Uriah Heep Live, and others.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 21:21
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I picked the one that has Bruford on it. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: iluvmarillion
Date Posted: March 28 2022 at 22:48
| The one I like most is the live recording at the Rainbow from the archived box set. From this list I prefer the earliest which would have been even better if they had included "Supper's Ready" from the same concert. Unfortunately Genesis get progressively worse with each live concert over the years, which Genesis fans don't care to admit. From the 1987 concert tour onwards where the band decided to perform a medley of tunes from the earlier albums was the final straw for me. The latest tour is a complete travesty of what was once was a great band, a purely money making exercise. Phil Collins has more sense than the other two to want to do the concert tour. I assume he did it to help out the career of his son, who is a really good drummer. Contrast that to Neil Finn who does a new Crowded House tour with both his sons trying a new more updated take on the songs. I wish Genesis had called it quits after 1987. They're not the band I grew up to love and admire as a teenager. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 00:19
| I'm not sure. Genesis Live should take it for being the one with the Genesis classic tracks, yet it's an incomplete show... and I believe they left out most of my favourite tracks that they actually did play. Live at the Rainbow is much better for me (which I have because I have the live boxed set)... I like their performance better, and it's got the songs missing from Genesis Live. And Seconds Out should be another contender, but somehow it's also missing too many songs that I love, and the mixing could have been better (Hackett's guitar is a bit low in the mix). I don't miss Gabriel's voice, on the contrary, it's what I like better on this one, for I prefer Collins singing over him (even if I obviously prefer the songs from Gabriel's era), but I do miss his flute (if only they had taken, say, Hackett's brother as a session musician for the tour to play the flute). Oh yes, and I wish they had included on all the album tracks taken with Bill Bruford on Drums. |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 00:56
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I haven't had a turntable in decades, so it has been that long since I heard Live. I'll have to fix that. Seconds Out and Three Side Live are both stunning. So is The Longs, as long as you like the Old Medley. I don't pay much attention to The Shorts but it is a good listen if you want the later hits mixed with a few shorter, rockier songs. Finally, Live Over Europe which has excellent sound (especially TB's keys), but time has robbed them a bit of their skill. Still a very good listen. My wish list would have Genesis go back into the archives, clean up and release some whole shows from the 76-80 tours. Voted for Three Sides Live
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 04:04
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Seconds Out is my favourite. Genesis live a very close second. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 04:23
Bruford appears on both 'Seconds Out' and 'Three Sides Live'
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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 05:19
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Genesis Live is the classic live prog album for me. The first among sequels.
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Posted By: judahbenkenobi
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 10:56
You said it all! Anyway, voted for Seconds Out since Live at the Rainbow was not in the lost. |
Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 12:41
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' Live' is a fantastic taste of the band, recorded and mixed with a powerful raw-ness which really showed what they were capable of as a live unit; it is however (as many have already said) an incomplete recording which could have been so, so much more with Suppers ready (as per the proposed double version and the numerous bootlegs) and , say, Twighlight Alehouse. The Bootleg 'White Mountain' which is from the 'Trick' tour with Bill Bruford on drums is a great document and excellent sound quality. There are lots of very interesting Live Bootlegs from 72-77 of varying sound qualities.. luckily Genesis dont seem to be worried about them being out there.. unlike some bands! Also the Live at Shepperton sound studios 73 (now its been more cleaned up) is as good a document of the band at its peak as any but the Rainbow gig is equally cool.. I went through a phase of finding Seconds Out a bit wishy-washy sound wise; Steve Hackett feels so mixed out that its almost the void that his guitar would occupy that is most noticeable to me. However i have returned to it in recent years (and with a new deck, amp, speakers) and have really enjoyed it and found that perhaps my bias was influenced by comments made at the time that SH's guitar was deliberately mixed down due to him leaving at that time. The 2019 half speed remaster certainly has more colour and oomph in it than my original vinyl versions. ------------- |
Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 15:48
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Has to be Live - it is just so atmospheric and authentic. ------------- "I always say that it’s about breaking the rules. But the secret of breaking rules in a way that works is understanding what the rules are in the first place". Rick Wakeman |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 20:22
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I'll argue for Seconds Out. It may not have Peter on it, but Steve is still there and Phil is killing it all the way through. Has tons of their best stuff, including a full live Supper's Ready, which is just phenomenal. Plus Afterglow hits so much harder live than it does on the album. Live is also great, though not having Supper's Ready even though it was part of the set seems like a misstep, and the production is a bit on the rough side. Peter is wonderful of course, and the energy in those performances is electric. Three Sides Live is also great if you care for pop Genesis at all. Phil was killing it on Seconds Out, but he hadn't yet fully found his voice on that album. Three Sides Live sees Phil at possibly his peak vocal performance. There's not a missed opportunity for him to impress. The band is super tight as well, being now closer to a power trio than ever (although not technically being one, but feeling more like one). And if you only care for prog Genesis, I defy you to say anything bad about the medley on side 3. Possibly the best single cut from any of these live albums. Haven't really checked out the others. I did see the Last Domino tour a few months ago, and I loved it. Domino in particular really stood out to me, but the band was hot all night, and Phil sounded great. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: Sacro_Porgo
Date Posted: March 29 2022 at 20:27
If Genesis had called it quits then, then I would never have gotten to see them, and I imagine many others as well, so I for one am extremely thankful for everything up through the last tour. Even if I don't love all of it, even if it's not quite up to the level of their early years, it's still one of the greatest bands ever continuing to do what they're so great at. Nothing to complain about keeping on keeping on. ------------- Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :) |
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: March 30 2022 at 09:07
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Seconds Out. ------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*) |
Posted By: Rick1
Date Posted: March 31 2022 at 02:12
Spot on! I did get to see them in 77, 78 and 87 but I really wished I had seen them this time around.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 01 2022 at 17:39
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 01 2022 at 21:00
You mean John Hackett was there to help filling in flute when Steve Hackett was auditioning for Genesis, or John Hackett auditioned to fill Peter Gabriel's flute parts when he left? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 01 2022 at 23:19
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I’m usually a sucker for a great live album and oftentimes prefer live takes over studio ones…but I never reach for any of the live albums by Genesis that I own. I’d rather listen to the studio albums. Maybe I should remedy that. As of yet I have no real vote. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 02 2022 at 09:28
------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 02 2022 at 09:50
| It has to be Genesis Live for me, the second album I ever bought and my first prog album. Shame it doesn't have Supper's Ready on it but it was a budget release (£1.99 if I remember rightly) so they couldn't make it a double album. Still brilliant though. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: April 03 2022 at 16:58
For me, there are many songs I love much better live. Steve Hackett and Phil Collins are on fire live, and give an extra punch to the songs. And in the case of Gabriel, I find him less annoying live than on studio. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 10:02
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Seconds Out ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 11:32
Yes. Well Three Sides Live anyway. It's a pretty damn good live album. Is it better than the first two lives albums? I would say no because the songs represented on those earlier live albums are just too good but I can still see some voting for it
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 12:55
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My personal ranking of all Genesis albums starts with (1) Live (2) Seconds Out. When I got Live, by the way, I had no idea that Supper's Ready was part of the set and somehow missing, so it was never a reason to complain. It's a mightily good album as it is. I don't normally complain about an album that I like that it's not a double album.
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Posted By: mellotronwave
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 14:08
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1) Live ( which I wish it were a double LP) The 2 gigs which gave birth to Genesis Live were Free Trade Hall in Manchester 2/24/73 and De Montford Hall Leicester 2/25/73. The set lists : Watcher/Musical box/Get'em/Supper/Hogweed/Knife 2) Seconds Out ( for its galactical 2nd CD) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 15:02
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I'm not a fan of Genesis live albums. I have a problem with Tony Banks. he is in my opinion really disappointing live -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: JD
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 15:57
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^Agreed, which is why I don't understand how he can top Emerson in a keyboard poll here on PA. I think I read or heard that he actually considers himself to be more of a 'fill' player than a lead. ------------- Thank you for supporting independently produced music |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 18:09
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take for example the live version of "Supper's Ready" from "Seconds Out". during the "Apocalypse in 9/8" section you could go really wild on the keyboards and improvise like hell while quoting key passages from the studio solo. but Banks plays the studio solo note for note. how boring! that's what I call "noodling" ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 09 2022 at 20:36
| ^ I don't have so much of a problem if the parts are played faithfully live... though indeed I might have less incentive to like it better. Yet with Genesis they may not go wild improvising and jamming, still I often find they play just a bit heavier and stronger, Collins in particular I like better in the live versions, and even Gabriel. I have never been much of a fan of Grabriel's vocals and his theatrics, but I feel while singing live he has to concentrate more in singing and tones down the theatrics (singing wise, I mean, I know his visual theatrics on stage were another thing). |