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Topic: 1970s' non-UK Prog Rock beauties (1)Posted By: David_D
Subject: 1970s' non-UK Prog Rock beauties (1)
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:07
I think, it would be nice to put some more focus on the 1970s' lesser known, non-UKProg Rock beauties,
and multiple voting is possible and very welcomed.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Replies: Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:11
My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte. Lovely stuff!!
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:14
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
..... Lovely stuff!!
thanks
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:41
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte.
I've voted for all your favourites, as I forgot to allow the multiple voting to begin with.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:56
David_D wrote:
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte.
I've voted for all your favourites, as I forgot to allow the multiple voting to begin with.
There's no need for multiple voting for me as I only know Clearlight's album.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 17:16
Psychedelic Paul wrote:
There's no need for multiple voting for me as I only know Clearlight's album.
That's a really great album and good beginning.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Euclid
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 17:45
Circus (Poland) Goblin (IT)
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 21:10
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 21:13
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 22:35
Cosmiclawnmower wrote:
My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte. Lovely stuff!!
Hi,
ANGE belongs in a completely different setting to these bands. They were very "theatrical" which came from the Brecht/Weill cabaret styled thing, and then was also visible via Jacques Brel, also a theatrical singer. The rest of the listing (other than CLEARLIGHT) would be considered a lot less valuable, as a performer, when compared to the these.
ANGE's first 6 or 7 albums are a must have and specially TOME 6 ... a live album. The sad thing is that no clean videos of the early days seem to have come through well, and often sound terrible, but when yo hear TOME 6, you immediately go ... this band is excellent, and knows how to put on a show.
Missing in this listing, is ALAN STIVELL that many of us can't handle. The material is very political, and not something that progressive folks like. We prefer the fairies and the weird and the "out there" that none of us can reach ... but the band being from the Brittany area (NW France if I am not mistaken) ... has some really far out material that deserves a listen. However, when you hear "Before Landing" you will understand right away the intense dislike, and the history of the folks in the area. It's a wonder it is not an independent country ...
CLEARLIGHT was to become a part of the "new age" thing, and while the material was nice, I thought it was too artistic to be considered "New Age". Very nice stuff, but within this poll both them and ANGE would likely be the more recognizable.
I'm not sure about PULSAR or how it was missed. MAGMA would likely rip this poll apart!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 23:49
Ange - Au-delá Du Délire (1974)
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:25
Mellotron Storm wrote:
So many great records here, went with these three Atila, Crucis and Campo Di Marte.
Technical problems but anyway, we've got your picks.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:32
Some good comments, Mosh, and have a better look at the thread title and the OP, then you might be less suprised.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:55
Atoll (F) - L’Araignee-mal (1975)
Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 03:52
Of these, I only know L’Araignee-mal. I've many of these in my list to check. So, my vote goes only to Atoll.
------------- "PROG IS MY FERRARI". Jem Godfrey (Frost*)
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 05:43
I must admit I don't know some of these, but I love Campo Di Marte, so it gets my vote.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 06:26
Manuel wrote:
I must admit I don't know some of these, but I love Campo Di Marte, so it gets my vote.
So this one may show to be better known on PA than I imagined.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 06:29
The first three (Ange, Atoll, and Atila) are all BIG winners for me!
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 07:21
David_D wrote:
Some good comments, Mosh, and have a better look at the thread title and the OP, then you might be less suprised.
David_D wrote:
Let's put some more focus on the 1970s' lesser known, non-UK Prog Rock beauties, and multiple voting is possible and very welcomed.
...
Hi,
Gee, quoting yourself, it seems the OP is not very clear, since that (1) does not explain its placement, or idea.
------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 08:33
Crucis > Atoll > Atila > Ange. I want to be more like the moon, but with more breadboxes.
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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 09:47
Great poll!
I chose Atoll, Ange, and Crack.
Now I'm ready for E through Z!
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 12:13
TerLJack wrote:
Great poll!
I chose Atoll, Ange, and Crack.
Now I'm ready for E through Z!
thanks and
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:03
I'd like to pick both
Campo di Marte and Au-delá Du Délire. The former album belongs to the dozen or so ITA-prog discoveries from the early 00's I still listen to after all these years. Love it from start to finish. Au-delá Du Délire is a masterwork of course.
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:54
My patriotic vote goes to Budka Suflera.
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:59
Hrychu wrote:
My patriotic vote goes to Budka Suflera.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 17 2023 at 15:56
De De Lind's concept album is only middle-highly rated, but I surely like it. Here's the opening of it:
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 17 2023 at 20:43
David_D wrote:
De De Lind's concept album is only middle-highly rated, but I surely like it
Haven't listened to it in ages but I really like it too.
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 18 2023 at 06:24
None can beat Circus' Movin' On
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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 18 2023 at 06:45
Sean Trane wrote:
None can beat Circus' Movin' On
And highly rated on both PA and RYM - looks like another good one to give a listen.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 04:19
A very good guide to the 1970s' European (minus UK) Prog Rock is Dag Erik Asbjørnsen's Scented Gardens Of the Mind: A guide to the golden era of progressive rock (1968-1980) in more than 20 European countries (2000), and its author btw is as exited about De De Lind's album as to state: "If one masterpiece should be singled out as the jewel of Italian rock, my vote would go to De De Lind's one-and-only album....".
I can also tell that the next poll in this serie will come in a couple of days and including bands beginning with D - I.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 05:30
David_D wrote:
A very good guide to the 1970s' European (minus UK) Prog Rock is Dag Erik Asbjørnsen's Scented Gardens Of the Mind: A guide to the golden era of progressive rock (1968-1980) in more than 20 European countries (2000), and its author btw is as exited about De De Lind's album as to state: "If one masterpiece should be singled out as the jewel of Italian rock, my vote would go to De De Lind's one-and-only album....".
I can also tell that the next poll in this serie will come in a couple of days and including bands beginning with D - I.
The BIG problem with that book is that Asbjornssen forgets to talk about Switzerland & Austria, because he had (all too briefly, IMHO) covered them in his Cosmic Dreams At Play krautrock book. All the more sorrier that he didn't even talk of those two lands in his rewriting (2nd edition) of CDAP
One of my (rare) gripes about those Borderline Books is that they +/- stop the time-line at 76 - for certain countries, this is way too soon, IMHO
The soft covers are also an issue (aging and wear in manipulation), but the bindings for such thick & heavy books hold up quite nice.
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------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 12:52
Sean Trane wrote:
The BIG problem with that book is that Asbjornssen forgets to talk about Switzerland & Austria, because he had (all too briefly, IMHO) covered them in his Cosmic Dreams At Play krautrock book. All the more sorrier that he didn't even talk of those two lands in his rewriting (2nd edition) of CDAP
Anyway, what is VERY good about that book is its showing the enormous richness of the 1970s non-UK Progressive Rock, as it includes about 1300 artists and thousands of albums. Not all of these artists are Prog by any stretch, but still, and we're only talking here about the European ones and even not from all the European countries - for instance, not from Germany either.
Something else, I'd appreciate if you could mention some Swiss and Austrian albums in my further polls in this serie, and I've noticed that you've already mentioned the Swiss Circus' Moving on.
------------- quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 13:14
David_D wrote:
Something else, I'd appreciate if you could mention some Swiss and Austrian albums in my further polls in this serie, and I've noticed that you've already mentioned the Swiss Circus' Moving on.
Not much in Austrian terms, but Joe Zawinul (Weather Report) was from there.
11 Ginga Rale BandWir Bedauern... Ost1980
10 Eela CraigEela Craig Ost1971
10 IsaiahIsaiah Ost1975
10 Klockwerk OrangeAbrakadabra Ost1975
10 Mantler, MichaelNo Answer Ost1974
10 Mantler, MichaelThe Hapless Child Ost1976
10 PaternosterPaternoster Ost1971
Switzerland is/was doing better in terms of 70's quality , but is also doing much better in the XXIst C (mostly in Jazz/Avant Prog)
14 CircusMovin'
On Swz1977
12 CircusCircus
Swz1976
12 CircusTearless,
Fearless and Even Less Swz1979
12 Fractal
SextetFractal Sextet Swz2022
11 Bärtsch, NikEntendre Swz2021
11 Bärtsch, Nik / RoninStoa Swz2006
11 Bärtsch, Nik / RoninAwase Swz2018
11 CircusAll
Stars Live Swz1978
11 Debile
MentholEmile au Jardin
Patrologique Swz1982 (see also Ensemble Rayé and Nimal from 81 until 92)
11 IkarusChronosome
Swz2016
11 IkarusMosaismic
Swz2019
11 IslandPictures
Swz1977
11 KedamaLive
at Sunrise Studios Swz1976
11 PyranhaPyranha Swz1972
11 ToadB.U.F.O.
(Blues United Fighting Organization) Swz1970
10 AgamemnonPart 1 & 2 Swz1981
10 AKKU
QuintetMolecules Swz2015
10 AKKU QuintetAeon Swz2017
10 Bärtsch, Nik / MobileRitual Groove Music Swz2001
10 Bärtsch, Nik / MobileAer Swz2004
10 Bärtsch, Nik / RoninHolon Swz2008
10 Blue MotionBlue Motion Swz1980
10 DawnLoneliness
Swz2007
10 GalaadPremier
Fevrier Swz1992
10 IkarusPlasma
Swz2022
10 KrokodilAn Invisible World Revealed Swz1971
10 McChurch SoundroomDelusion Swz1971
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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: December 11 2023 at 13:05
Crucis, Campo di Marte, Ange and Atila. All great.