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Topic: 1970s' non-UK Prog Rock beauties (1)
Posted By: David_D
Subject: 1970s' non-UK Prog Rock beauties (1)
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:07

I think, it would be nice to put some more focus on the 1970s' lesser known, non-UK Prog Rock beauties, 
     and multiple voting is possible and very welcomed.

Tongue





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Posted By: Cosmiclawnmower
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:11
My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte. Lovely stuff!!Thumbs Up

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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:14
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

..... Lovely stuff!!Thumbs Up

thanks  Smile


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:41
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte.

I've voted for all your favourites, as I forgot to allow the multiple voting to begin with. 


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Posted By: Psychedelic Paul
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 16:56
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte.

I've voted for all your favourites, as I forgot to allow the multiple voting to begin with. 
There's no need for multiple voting for me as I only know Clearlight's album. Embarrassed


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 17:16
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

There's no need for multiple voting for me as I only know Clearlight's album. Embarrassed

That's a really great album and good beginning. Tongue



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Posted By: Euclid
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 17:45
Circus (Poland)
Goblin (IT)


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 21:10
So many great records here, went with these three Atila, Crucis and Campo Di Marte.(function(){var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'826ce362bebba210',t:'MTcwMDEwNzg2OC42OTQwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< height="1" width="1" style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: none; visibility: ;">

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 21:13
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 22:35
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My four favourites here are Ange, Atoll, Burnin' red Ivanhoe and Campo Di Marte. Lovely stuff!!Thumbs Up

Hi,

ANGE belongs in a completely different setting to these bands. They were very "theatrical" which came from the Brecht/Weill cabaret styled thing, and then was also visible via Jacques Brel, also a theatrical singer. The rest of the listing (other than CLEARLIGHT) would be considered a lot less valuable, as a performer, when compared to the these.

ANGE's first 6 or 7 albums are a must have and specially TOME 6 ... a live album. The sad thing is that no clean videos of the early days seem to have come through well, and often sound terrible, but when yo hear TOME 6, you immediately go ... this band is excellent, and knows how to put on a show.

Missing in this listing, is ALAN STIVELL that many of us can't handle. The material is very political, and not something that progressive folks like. We prefer the fairies and the weird and the "out there" that none of us can reach ... but the band being from the Brittany area (NW France if I am not mistaken) ... has some really far out material that deserves a listen. However, when you hear "Before Landing" you will understand right away the intense dislike, and the history of the folks in the area. It's a wonder it is not an independent country ... 

CLEARLIGHT was to become a part of the "new age" thing, and while the material was nice, I thought it was too artistic to be considered "New Age". Very nice stuff, but within this poll both them and ANGE would likely be the more recognizable. 

I'm not sure about PULSAR or how it was missed. MAGMA would likely rip this poll apart!


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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 15 2023 at 23:49
Ange - Au-delá Du Délire (1974)


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:25
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm Mellotron Storm wrote:

So many great records here, went with these three Atila, Crucis and Campo Di Marte.

Technical problems but anyway, we've got your picks.  Thumbs Up


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:32

Some good comments, Mosh, and have a better look at the thread title and the OP, then you might be less suprised. Wink








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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 02:55
Atoll (F) - L’Araignee-mal (1975)


Posted By: VianaProghead
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 03:52
Of these, I only know L’Araignee-mal. I've many of these in my list to check. So, my vote goes only to Atoll.

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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 05:43
I must admit I don't know some of these, but I love Campo Di Marte, so it gets my vote.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 06:26
Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

I must admit I don't know some of these, but I love Campo Di Marte, so it gets my vote.

So this one may show to be better known on PA than I imagined.


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 06:29
The first three (Ange, Atoll, and Atila) are all BIG winners for me!



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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 07:21
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


Some good comments, Mosh, and have a better look at the thread title and the OP, then you might be less suprised. Wink


Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Let's put some more focus on the 1970s' lesser known, non-UK Prog Rock beauties, and multiple voting is possible and    very welcomed.
...

Hi,

Gee, quoting yourself, it seems the OP is not very clear, since that (1) does not explain its placement, or idea. 


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Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 08:33
Crucis > Atoll > Atila > Ange. I want to be more like the moon, but with more breadboxes. 

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Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 09:47
Great poll!
I chose Atoll, Ange, and Crack.
Now I'm ready for E through Z!


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 12:13
Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

Great poll!
I chose Atoll, Ange, and Crack.
Now I'm ready for E through Z!

thanks and  Thumbs Up  


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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:03
I'd like to pick both Campo di Marte and Au-delá Du Délire. The former album belongs to the dozen or so ITA-prog discoveries from the early 00's I still listen to after all these years. Love it from start to finish. Au-delá Du Délire is a masterwork of course.


Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:54
My patriotic vote goes to Budka Suflera.


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 16 2023 at 14:59
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

My patriotic vote goes to Budka Suflera.

Thumbs Up


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 17 2023 at 15:56

     De De Lind's concept album is only middle-highly rated, but I surely like it. Here's the opening of it:



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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: November 17 2023 at 20:43
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

De De Lind's concept album is only middle-highly rated, but I surely like it
Haven't listened to it in ages but I really like it too.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 18 2023 at 06:24
None can beat Circus' Movin' On


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 18 2023 at 06:45
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

None can beat Circus' Movin' On

And highly rated on both PA and RYM - looks like another good one to give a listen. Tongue


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Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 04:19

A very good guide to the 1970s' European (minus UK) Prog Rock is Dag Erik Asbjørnsen's Scented Gardens Of the Mind: A guide to the golden era of progressive rock (1968-1980) in more than 20 European countries (2000), and its author btw is as exited about De De Lind's album as to state: "If one masterpiece should be singled out as the jewel of Italian rock, my vote would go to De De Lind's one-and-only album....".

I can also tell that the next poll in this serie will come in a couple of days and including bands beginning with D - I.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 05:30
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


A very good guide to the 1970s' European (minus UK) Prog Rock is Dag Erik Asbjørnsen's Scented Gardens Of the Mind: A guide to the golden era of progressive rock (1968-1980) in more than 20 European countries (2000), and its author btw is as exited about De De Lind's album as to state: "If one masterpiece should be singled out as the jewel of Italian rock, my vote would go to De De Lind's one-and-only album....".

I can also tell that the next poll in this serie will come in a couple of days and including bands beginning with D - I.

The BIG problem with that book is that Asbjornssen forgets to talk about Switzerland & Austria, because he had (all too briefly, IMHOCry) covered them in his Cosmic Dreams At Play krautrock book.   All the more sorrier that he didn't even talk of those two lands in his rewriting (2nd edition) of CDAPThumbs Down

One of my (rare) gripes about those Borderline Books is that they +/- stop the time-line at 76 - for certain countries, this is way too soon, IMHO

The soft covers are also an issue (aging and wear in manipulation), but the bindings for such thick & heavy books hold up quite nice. 


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: David_D
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 12:52
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

The BIG problem with that book is that Asbjornssen forgets to talk about Switzerland & Austria, because he had (all too briefly, IMHOCry) covered them in his Cosmic Dreams At Play krautrock book.   All the more sorrier that he didn't even talk of those two lands in his rewriting (2nd edition) of CDAPThumbs Down

Anyway, what is VERY good about that book is its showing the enormous richness of the 1970s non-UK Progressive Rock, as it includes about 1300 artists and thousands of albums. Not all of these artists are Prog by any stretch, but still, and we're only talking here about the European ones and even not from all the European countries - for instance, not from Germany either. 

Something else, I'd appreciate if you could mention some Swiss and Austrian albums in my further polls in this serie, and I've noticed that you've already mentioned the Swiss Circus' Moving on


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 20 2023 at 13:14
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Something else, I'd appreciate if you could mention some Swiss and Austrian albums in my further polls in this serie, and I've noticed that you've already mentioned the Swiss Circus' Moving on



Not much in Austrian terms, but Joe Zawinul (Weather Report) was from there.

11           Ginga Rale Band              Wir Bedauern...               Ost         1980                      

10           Eela Craig            Eela Craig            Ost         1971     

10           Isaiah    Isaiah    Ost         1975     

10           Klockwerk Orange          Abrakadabra     Ost         1975     

10           Mantler, Michael            No Answer         Ost         1974     

10           Mantler, Michael            The Hapless Child            Ost         1976     

10             Paternoster       Paternoster       Ost         1971



Switzerland is/was  doing better in terms of 70's quality , but is also doing much better in the XXIst C (mostly in Jazz/Avant Prog)

14           Circus    Movin' On          Swz        1977     

12           Circus    Circus    Swz        1976     

12           Circus    Tearless, Fearless and Even Less             Swz        1979     

12           Fractal Sextet    Fractal Sextet    Swz        2022     

11           Bärtsch, Nik       Entendre            Swz        2021     

11           Bärtsch, Nik / Ronin       Stoa       Swz        2006     

11           Bärtsch, Nik / Ronin       Awase Swz        2018                      

11           Circus    All Stars Live      Swz        1978     

11           Debile Menthol    Emile au Jardin Patrologique      Swz        1982  (see also Ensemble Rayé and Nimal from 81 until 92)   

11           Ikarus   Chronosome     Swz        2016     

11           Ikarus   Mosaismic          Swz        2019     

11           Island    Pictures               Swz        1977     

11           Kedama               Live at Sunrise Studios Swz        1976     

11           Pyranha               Pyranha               Swz        1972     

11           Toad      B.U.F.O. (Blues United Fighting Organization)   Swz        1970     

10           Agamemnon     Part 1 & 2            Swz        1981     

10           AKKU Quintet   Molecules          Swz        2015     

10           AKKU Quintet   Aeon     Swz        2017     

10           Bärtsch, Nik / Mobile     Ritual Groove Music      Swz        2001     

10           Bärtsch, Nik / Mobile     Aer        Swz        2004     

10           Bärtsch, Nik / Ronin       Holon    Swz        2008     

10           Blue Motion      Blue Motion      Swz        1980     

10           Dawn    Loneliness          Swz        2007     

10           Galaad  Premier Fevrier               Swz        1992     

10           Ikarus   Plasma Swz        2022     

10           Krokodil               An Invisible World Revealed      Swz        1971     

10             McChurch Soundroom      Delusion              Swz        1971   


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: December 11 2023 at 13:05
Crucis, Campo di Marte, Ange and Atila. All great.

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