What to do what to do...**RUSH*** vocals
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Topic: What to do what to do...**RUSH*** vocals
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Subject: What to do what to do...**RUSH*** vocals
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 14:59
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I LOVE Rush instrumental work i think their melodies are awesome and their songs are awesome...but i feel SOOO awful listening to geddy lees vocals....can anyone comfort me? He just sounds like a little kid screaming at the top of his lungs.
Well, just so this isnt a strange topic...what do ou guys thi nk of his vocals? Are there any HARD CORE Rush fans that don't even really dig his vocals sometimes?
Just curious?? -------------  "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: Kithulhu
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:07
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I've always loved Geddy's voice. But I bet there are many who don't like it. Once, I played Bravado in the prescence of a friend of mine, and her comment on the song was "Oh. I quite like the song, but the girl who's singing is just awful.". |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:10
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i think his vocal style is definitely unique, but i can see where you are coming from
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:14
I absolutely "dig" Lee's vocals. how depreciating can things get only because it isn't the common thing. 
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Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:18
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I like alot of uncommon vocalists,though, thats the thing. I just have SUCH a hard time, i think it is because i heard coheed and cambria before i heard Rush? So i feel like a loser listening to Rush, it just makes me cringe I feel like I am listening to some emo punk singer or something.
But i always try to convince myself that he was truly unique, which he was, and his vocal stylings were prettty new at the time. I just can;t do it though! It always goes back to coheed, and my utter hatred for that vocal sound. ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: Someo Therguy
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:22
| I must agree with The Lost Chord. I have loved RUSH's music since I saw the 2112 concert tour way back when. But I have never been able to appreciate Geddy's voice. However, it doesn't stop me from appreciating the band. |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:30
| No problem with his vocals, love his voice on "Hemispheres" and "Fly By Night" |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:31
| If you think Geddy screams or sings like a girl now, you probably haven't listened to recent Rush albums properly.. He's dropped his register quite noticeably, and now he sings nowhere as high or shrill as he did in the Seventies. That said, he's one of my favourite vocalists, because he sings in a very expressive way - moreover, he can interpret very effectively lyrics he didn't write himself. |
Posted By: Rosescar
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:37
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It's not so bad on "Moving Pictures". But on that song "The Trees" I really want to kill something.
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Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:42
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His prog- rush era singing is at the top of my favorite vocals list. I think his high vocals are awesome, especially in the Cygnus epics. I's a matter of taste and opinion. I guess it also has to do with my roots, I started listening to both prog and rush through the singing and James Labrie and Geddy, two of the most criticized singers in prog. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! GHOST RIDER IS AN ADMIN!!!!!!! Now he will terrorize the forum with his new power by turning it into an anti-Dream Theater forum!!!!!! (hangs himself)    .. Seriously, I'd get along with you fine if you and Micky didn't constantly write bashing (even if it's for fun) comments in every single DT Thread. You have a responsibility to give a good impression now that your a Mod. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:49
*starts crying*  I'm not a he, I'm a she....  And you are perfectly right about the bashing... Not only have I stopped that, but today I found SFAM at a discounted price (very much so, I have to say...) and bought it - and I also intend to review it as fairly as I can! As to Micky, though, I can't guarantee he won't keep on bashing DT.. He isn't a Mod, after all! |
Posted By: MajesterX
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:55
Woops... That explains why you hate Dt! They have pretty much no girl fans. Honestly, I would have bet everything I have on the fact that there will never be a female Mod on the biggest prorressive rock site. Go figure. Not because I'm sexist or anything, but because 99% of prog fans are men!-------------
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Ghost Rider wrote:Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:56
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I'll take Geddy's vocals over a myriad of other vocalists out there. Nothing at all wrong with his singing.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:57
and an unalienable right to express her opinion. Madge X dont take life too seriously
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:57
A lady friend of mine has every DT album and has seen them 8 times including the Radio City Music Hall performance for SCORE.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:58
Take a break from digging, and put down your shovel. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 15:59
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Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 16:01
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It's been difficult for me to get into Rush because of Geddy's
vocals. Definitely an acquired taste. Great band though,
unlike Dream Theater!
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 16:17
| I LIKE Geddy Lee's vocals. No problem with his singing with me. |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 16:23
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I can understand why some might find Geddy's 70's high pitched vocals irritating, but I love his voice and couldn't imagine any other vocal style to accompany Rush's music. Just keep listening TLC, maybe one day it will "click". And to Ghostrider, Congratulations on becoming a moderator.  I've wanted to say something before but I didn't see a thread dedicated to your promotion.  ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 16:37
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cool..yeah, i think one day it will click. Usually it does, because i know when something is good, it is good, and i really dont hate his vocals, i feel what people like about it, but its that outside feeling that kills it.
One day it will click, and then I will be laughed at for the rest of my life, but because it clicked, i will be blind to the giggles. Everyone who likes rush gets laughed at in New York. Not that I agree with it, but his vocals are just so shunned upon that it is a joke if you are actually a FAN here.
It was like this before i knew about prog, i really never enjoyed RUSH and always felt the same way as most yanks. Its just very different sounding, but now i re4spect the instrumental work heavily because ive grown up, but i still have that sleight grin everytime geddy kicks in.
Cant deal just yet, still trying to get into alot of other not so easily accessable stuff (krautrock AHHHH!!!!
 )Thanks for the input its good to see peoples opinions! ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 16:44
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I didn't know Geddy was the singer..I always assumed that the high
pitched noise at Rush concerts was their washing machines on the spin
cycle.
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Posted By: crpearson2004
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 19:59
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All I have to say Geddy Lee's voice is awesome. Okay, Thanks, Bye. ------------- 
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 20:49
| Geddy Lee > Christina Aguilera |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 20:52
I live in NY, and (at least among my friends, other people don't know who the f**k they are) Rush = 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:02
Stop the press! Someone does not like Lee´s vocals! Wow, this is truly remarkable and unique I might add... this is something I have never hear/listen/see nor taste before... And why is that? I think Lee sings so very good ...what a pitty his bassplaying is such crap
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Posted By: Proghat
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 21:59
Geddy is an amazing vocalist, and if you don't think so, you haven't heard enough crappy vocalists. Try listening to Chris Collins (a perfect example of Geddy's style of singing gone wrong) without throwing-up and then get back to me. Seriously, though, Geddy just takes some getting used to. You'll appreciate him eventually. |
Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 22:33
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Few years ago i couldn't even admit that Rush is a prog band. I hate them, and i didnt now why (even now i dont know why). But now i find them really interesting band with great musicianchip and great melodies. My opinion is that Lee's voice is very unique and emotional. Now about you, The lost chord, i dont think you are gonna like them just because is like David Surkamp's voice from Pavlov dog, you love it or you hate it. :D ------------- 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 08 2006 at 23:23
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Geddy Lee is actually one of my favorite vocalists, but I've always had an affinity for higher vocalists. Perhaps it comes from my days as the president of the Sopranoes a few years back -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: VERS
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 00:32
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RUSH IS AMAZING! GEDDY IS GOD! ------------- 
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Posted By: Soupykan
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 00:43
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Geddy Lee's voice is pretty whiney, and I love it that way. I feel it adds a nice contrast to their intricate yet hard rocking songs.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 02:05
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Geddy's vocal style isn't anything like Cladio Sanchez's from Coheed.
Yes, both their voices are of a higher register, but so are thousands
of singer. Geddy has a very unique, natural singing style which
personally I find to be incredibly emotive. Take another high pitched vocalist, David Surkamp, only an idiot would confuse his singing style with Geddy's. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 02:24
| The one reason why Rush were never one of my favourite bands was because of Geddy's 'banshee vocals'. I always believed they would have been a better band with a better vocalist! |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 04:50
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thanks dudes and deudettes ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 05:28
& LISTEN to RUSH Again |
Posted By: mizzin
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 05:55
Years ago when i heard DT and Rush i didn't like them because of the vocals, but later i got used to Labrie 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 07:26
Geddy's bassplaying is crap? Are you sure you're feeling well?  |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 07:52
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Voice of Geddy Lee is OK
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 10:24
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Geddy's voice is a good match for his bass guitar! I never had a problem with his voice, not on older records, not on the newer ones. I just changed my avatar from an ELP cover to My Favourite Headache, and given this thread I'm going to keep it that way for a while After writing the above, I tried to think of a singer that I do not like, and I can't really name one. the only (temporary) exception is probably Les Claypool - he really sounded like Donald Duck on steroids the first time I saw them live (support act for Rush, haha). I even managed to get used to that... Angelo ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 16:49
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 18:45
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He sounds like Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin, I like their vocal styles because they are unique. The Lyrics in some of Rush’s stuff are great, especially in Hemispheres and Moving Pictures. ------------- 
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 18:48
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Posted By: acheron
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:26
never compare Rush with emo/punk garbage
try listening to the earlier stuff first when his voice more strait rock
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Posted By: alias10mr
Date Posted: September 09 2006 at 20:43
Thank You Ghost Rider... Geddy's vocals are an acquired taste. As for his bass playing: there are certain music professors who cite him for his technique.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:28
Who's your idea of a good bassist, Ross Valory? ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 03:34
Strongly disagree. Gedd toned it down circa AFTK and Hemispheres. "Better" vocalist? Listen to Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows ... I wouldn't switch out those pipes for homogenized vocals like those of Steve Perry or Bobby Kimball... ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Verwuestung
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 04:28
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to be honest I haven't really listened to rush I just had a very quick listen at a friend's place and as soon as I heard the singing I was immediately turned off.. maybe it needs some getting used to.. but I rather not actually |
Posted By: Kithulhu
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 11:34
So... You're drunk, right?
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 12:06
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Posted By: blbx93
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 12:41
| If you don't like geddy then dont listen to them genius. His vocals are just as much a part of the band as anything else, don't try to tolerate it, seriously I'm sick of people bitching about a unique voice like geddy's. Personally I can't stand Gabriel's voice (my opinion) so I don't listen to it. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:15
Ahhh...Ghost rider...I see you do not get my sarcasm...  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 13:20
Indeed I don't... why don't you use emoticons? |
Posted By: Grimm
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 16:10
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While never really having a problem with Geddy's voice (except for the debut album) I have always wanted Rush to do an all - instrumental album. This is because the few instrumentals they have are so good! ------------- Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be or seem to be self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 16:15
That would surely have been excellent!!! Never thought of that possibility! ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: unforgivable74
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 18:52
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Unlike, previous comments, I prefer Geddy's 70's 'higher pitched' vocals than on recent Rush albums. There's a note he reaches on 'Cygnus X-1' during which I am positive you wouldn't be able to get a credit card between the cheeks of his arse! However, after watching the recent Rio DVD, I have to say his live vocals lack power - very bland and weak. Still musically great though. ------------- Laughs as I clean my teeth, laughs as I rub at my eyes. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 19:01
 That note is pretty crazy. Although, not all his live vocals are bad (ATWAS). I thought his R30 vocals were pretty weak though. Luckily for Yes fans, Jon Anderson doesn't get Geddy syndrome on the Songs from Tsongas DVD.
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Posted By: unforgivable74
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 19:07
Agreed, Chameleon. I was specifically speaking of examples more recent than ATWAS. ------------- Laughs as I clean my teeth, laughs as I rub at my eyes. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 19:22
Ah. I have to agree, though... anything after Exit...Stage Left wasn't quite up to snuff.
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Posted By: Ghostnote
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 21:39
| I think Geddy's at his peak vocally on Caress Of Steel and 2112. The other 70's albums began getting thin and shrilly, and when he lowered his voice another octave it got even worse! |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 10 2006 at 21:41
Naw. He owned on Permanent Waves.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 03:28
And Moving Pictures, Signals, P/G, Power Windows ... awesome. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: September 11 2006 at 12:38
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How can anyone be a die-hard Rush fan but dislike Ged's vocals?
I come pretty close. I take his vocals for what they are. No they are not perfect but Rush is not Rush without them. Then again, their are a number of bands I like quite a bit but think the singer is awful, i.e Genesis with Gabriel and Collins singing. ------------- 
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Posted By: Uther
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 23:16
I can't stand his witch's style of sing ...on the contrary..Rush could be a better band, more complete with a real talent singer 
My apologies if someone feel hurt/injured
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 23:18
I feel hurt/injured.
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Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 23:33
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Isn't Geddy's voice just one of those things where you just accept it or not? I mean, I don't know what all the hate is about. His vocal work is incredible and listen this isn't just because I'm a Canuck here. Anyone who can play bass the way that he does AND STILL SING AT THE SAME TIME has to be put in a different vocal category. I mean we're not talking about boy bands here. (hahaha, or are we?, Alex would argue , lol) Sometimes my girlfriend is listening to Gwen Stefani and I'm like "oh she's emulating Geddy Lee hardcore"... Go ahead, listen to her for a bit, maybe like some old No Doubt albums. You'll agree. And other people have actually said that their singing was influenced by Geddy, can't remember who now though, but believe me, they're out there, oh yes, they are. Gaston -------------  
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Posted By: Uther
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 23:39
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Hate? are you kidding?
Well another injured guy...uf sensible skin.
I agree with you...excellent bassist...vocals, no way!
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Posted By: Gaston
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 23:56
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Ah, true, I mean I do understand where everyone is coming from on this one, but I have to always give love to the Geddynator. Vocals might be lacking, but you know what I always thought? HOLY CRAP HOW MUCH WORSE WERE PEART'S AND LIFESON'S VOICES???????
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 01:01
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To rather inappropriately slightly misquote Miranda from the Star Trek episode "Is There No Truth in Beauty"... "I see, Dr. McCoy, you still subscribe to the outmoded notion, promulgated by your ancient Greeks, that what is good must also be beautiful. And the reverse, of course, that what is beautiful is automatically expected to be good ... What is ugly? Who is to say whether Geddy Lee's vocals are too ugly to bear or too beautiful to bear?" |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 01:33
Geddy's vocals on Cos through PW were incredible...listen to him belt it out on "Big Money." How on Earth can one posit he makes a terrible lead singer?! I guess millions of Rushfans must be wrong. 
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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 03:51
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I can accept high picthed male screaming vocals, as I can accept 90's death metal groaning, and also calssical singing in the operas. Geddy's style is not maybe the coolest way of singing, but his voice evolved during the band's career, and he sings very well on post 1980 records IMO. (Also Bowie's voice came better during late 70's.) BTW I sometime thought, that RUSH's songs could be covered in a cool manner with a lady singer!
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 09:23
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Don't say Evanescence.
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Posted By: Radar Love
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 09:58
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The answer to the title of the thread is simple.....sack Geddy! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 09:59
Your answer deserves a
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 14:25
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I like Geddy's vocals. They keep me from taking Rush's music too seriously, which is a good thing for me. If some other vocalist with a lower pitched voice sang for Rush, their music might start to sound too menacing and dark, which would totally ruin it for me. |
Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 19:25
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Just keep listening to Rush, try to listen a complete album by itself, doing NOTHING ELSE, just listening. Try also seeing them live, for that audiovisual energy connection, Rush in Rio probably, where lee's voice is not as witchy as before. Wait for the click, you will love it! ------------- "Tis your birth and faith that wrong you...not I." |
Posted By: blbx93
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 20:20
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Don't listen to rush, ur unworthy if all u can do is complain about geddy's unique voice.
DONT LISTEN
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Posted By: asuma
Date Posted: October 30 2006 at 21:18
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His vocals did take some getting used to from me, but I found it to be well worth it. He has his own style. It's high, but it's got depth to it. Just the way he can hit certain notes is amazing in itself. Yes, the pitch can at times get overboard, but that is all part of the fun. ------------- *Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.* |
Posted By: yarstruly
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 15:35
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I think he is the perfect singer for Rush and his voice evolevd to fit the music that they were doing over time.....I do like his modern Baritone for the songs they are doing more recently and his high shreik on the earlier stuff....and not only is he a phenomenal Bassist (Behind only Squire and possibly Levin on my list), he is a good keyboardist (I said good, not virtuoso...I remember reading a quote one time where he said something like "I'm no Keith Emerson, but I think what I can do fits our music") and often is playing Bass pedals while singing, playing bass & swithcing to Keys and sometimes even rhythm guitar...Xanadu is one of the most amazing musical juggling acts for a single musician you might ever see! Maybe he doesn't have a Jon Anderson or Freddie Mercury level voice, but taken as a package he is one AMAZING musician! ------------- Facebook hashtags: #100greatestprogrockchallenge #scottssongbysong #scottsspotlight |
Posted By: Stefanovic
Date Posted: November 02 2006 at 15:37
I love Geddy's voice... granted that's an acquired taste but worth the effort since the music is really awesome (especially late 70's, early 80's) 
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