Rating Krautrock
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Topic: Rating Krautrock
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: Rating Krautrock
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 11:00
 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90673 - WEGMÜLLER, WALTER - Tarot http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90672 - SAND* - Golem http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90671 - ROTHER, MICHAEL - Fernwaerme http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90670 - ROTHER, MICHAEL - Sterntaler  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90669 - ROTHER, MICHAEL - Flammende Herzen  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90668 - ROTHER, MICHAEL - Katzenmusik http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90667 - POPOL VUH - In den Gärten Pharaos http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90666 - POPOL VUH - Hosianna Mantra http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90665 - POPOL VUH - Seligpreisung http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90664 - POPOL VUH - Letzte Tage - Letzte Nächte http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90663 - POPOL VUH - Das Hohelied Salomos http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90662 - POPOL VUH - Einsjäger & Siebenjäger http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90661 - NEU! - Neu! http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90660 - NEU! - Neu! '75 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90659 - NECRONOMICON - Tips Zum Selbstmord http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90658 - MYTHOS - Dreamlab http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90657 - LIMBUS 3 & 4 - Mandalas http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90656 - LARD FREE - Lard Free http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90655 - LARD FREE - Spirale Malax  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90654 - LARD FREE - I'm Around About Midnight http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90653 - LA DÜSSELDORF - La Düsseldorf http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90652 - KROKODIL - Krokodil http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90651 - KROKODIL - An Invisible World Revealed http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90650 - KOLLEKTIV - Kollektiv http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90649 - KLUSTER - Zwei Osterei http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90648 - KAPUTTER HAMSTER - Kaputter Hamster http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90647 - GURU GURU - Globetrotter http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90646 - GURU GURU - Mani und seine Freunde http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90645 - GURU GURU - Dance of the Flames http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90644 - GURU GURU - Guru Guru http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90643 - GURU GURU - UFO http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90642 - GURU GURU - Kän Guru http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90641 - GÖTTSCHING, MANUEL - Inventions For Electric Guitar http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90640 - GOLOWIN, SERGIUS - Lord Krishna Von Goloka http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90639 - GERMAN OAK - German Oak http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90638 - GÄA - Auf Der Bahn Zum Uranus http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90637 - FAUST - Faust http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90636 - FAUST - Faust IV http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90635 - EULENSPYGEL - 2 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90634 - EROC - Eroc 3 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90633 - EROC - Eroc Zwei http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90632 - EROC - Eroc http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90631 - ERLKOENIG - Erlkoenig http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90630 - EILIFF - Girlrls http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90629 - DZYAN - Dzyan http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90628 - DZYAN - Time Machine http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90627 - DZYAN - Electric Silence http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90626 - DEUTER - d http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90625 - DEUTER - Aum http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90624 - CZUKAY, HOLGER - Movies http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90623 - CZUKAY, HOLGER - Rome Remains Rome http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90622 - CZUKAY, HOLGER - On The Way To The Peak Of Normal http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90621 - COSMIC JOKERS, THE - The Cosmic Jokers http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90620 - COSMIC JOKERS, THE - Galactic Supermarket http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90619 - CLUSTER - Grosses Wasser http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90618 - CLUSTER - Sowiesoso http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90617 - CLUSTER - Zuckerzeit http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90616 - CLUSTER - 71  http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90615 - CAN - Saw Delight http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90614 - CAN - Landed http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90613 - CAN - Soon Over Babaluma http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90612 - CAN - Future Days http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90611 - CAN - Ege Bamyasi http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90610 - CAN - Tago Mago http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90609 - BETWEEN - Einstieg http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90608 - BETWEEN - Dharana http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90607 - BETWEEN - And The Waters Opened http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90606 - ASHRA - Belle Alliance http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90605 - ASHRA - Correlations http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90604 - ASHRA - Blackouts http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90603 - ASHRA - New Age Of Earth http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90602 - ASH RA TEMPEL - Seven Up http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90601 - ASH RA TEMPEL - Join Inn http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90600 - ASH RA TEMPEL - Schwingungen http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90599 - ASH RA TEMPEL - Ash Ra Tempel http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90597 - ANNEXUS QUAM - Osmose http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90596 - AMON DÜÜL II - Carnival in Babylon http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90595 - AMON DÜÜL II - Wolf City http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90594 - AMON DÜÜL II - Phallus Dei http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90592 - AMON DÜÜL II - Yeti http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90591 - AMON DÜÜL II - Tanz Der Lemminge http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90590 - AMON DÜÜL - Paradieswärts Düül http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90589 - AGITATION FREE - Second http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90588 - AGITATION FREE - Malesch http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90587 - A.R. & MACHINES - A.R 3 |
Replies:
Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 11:21
| What I gather from all of these posts is that you don't really like music all that much. |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 11:22
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3 stars are very good albums
ps - Dont forget that I grade stiffly using the full 1-5 star rating system.
5 being masterpiece, dont give this mark to many
4 being near masterpiece, or very good, classic sound, defining
3 being really good, some may consider classic, worthy listen
2 being good or collectors or those who really like the band, clone bands
1 being some good some fair songs, fair clone bands, not bad anything below this I dont consider worth rating
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 17:58
 ../Review.asp?id=90612 - CAN - Future Days ../Review.asp?id=90611 - CAN - Ege Bamyasi ../Review.asp?id=90610 - CAN - Tago Mago  ../Review.asp?id=90661 - NEU! - Neu! ../Review.asp?id=90660 - NEU! - Neu! '75 Those are all at least 4 stars, even by your system. -------------   |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 18:29
| OK Tago Mago 3.5 and Neu 75 3.5 your right! |
Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 18:57
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Necronomicon - Tips zum Selbstmord deserves at least 4 ;)
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Dream_Thief_/?chartstyle=Geldropdown2"> 
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:20
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Funny that two you give***** Ashra: New Age of Earth and Cluster: Zuckerzeit are not at all krautrock albums (I know they are on this site), Lard Free are french. That leaves Eroc which I haven't heard yet. Yuu give Ash Ra Tempel's debut, Tago Mago and Yeti ***. Phallus Dei **! All are considered classics of the genre. Do you actually like krautrock? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 21:23
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Zuckerzeit is the most commercial Cluster album too, and the best selling I think. FAR from the best IMO, and I have all of the classic albums up to Curiosum. DB prefers kosmiche music to traditional krautrock I think, hence low ratins for Can and ADII, that's what I gather from his posting in the past. By the way DB, I noticed you hadn't rated Between's "Hesse Between Music." If you haven't heard it, check it out, it's definitely on of the more unique krautrock albums IMO. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 22:06
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Kosmiche after experimental Krautrock in the early 70's is superior, IMO. Again this is mostly psychedelics music and hence Kosmiche is the vehicle under that influence. I like Krautrock as a whole but find Annexus Quams and Erocs and Dzyans best works superior to the usual noisehead stuff that many claim as the best, sounds still experimental without direction. Though AQ, E and D seemed to have focus on what they were trying to achieve and it works, IMO. Holger Czukays best work steps up the game in the early 80's, again IMO. As for Can they were trying with great musicians and many ideas to change the face of music, I think as a whole they werent able to achieve what they set out to do, I give them much credit for the effort but some was wasted.
anything 3 stars I really like, but dont necessarily consider it classic or masterpiece, maybe maximum effort? |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 10:18
| hope this is helpful for those looking into 70's stuff. Remember I need your help on 90's and 2000's stuff! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 11:59
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I am a big fan of kraut Rock and have written my fair share of reviews.
I think if you want to rate a band you should back it up in
words, you say nothing about your ratings.
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 13:38
Agreed, especially considering how your rating system doesn't go by the site's established standards. All you're accomplishing right now is lowering the average ratings for most of those albums, which certainly won't do anything to help promote them. |
Vibrationbaby wrote:Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 19:12
I got an idea, Ill do what I want! And then you can do what you want! 
you guys are worse than my wife!
 my standard
5 being masterpiece, dont give this mark to many
4 being near masterpiece, or very good, classic sound, defining
3 being really good, some may consider classic, worthy listen
2 being good or collectors or those who really like the band, clone bands
1 being some good some fair songs, fair clone bands, not bad
progarchives
Rating :
doesnt seem to be a WHOLE lot of difference, many see 500 albums as 5 star, I think of maybe 50 as worthy of this distinction. Archives 1 may equal my 0, oh well, each to his own interpretation. |
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:12
you saved me a lot of time; mate!!! I was just trying to figure out a way to express my feelings
(I haven't heard Eroc, either... but the first couple of Grobschnitt releases are great, especailly Solar Music Live)
btw; you needen't justify yourself writing "they're on this site"... You aren't saying they're not prog at all; just not Kraut enough
... Both albums are more progressive electronic than anything, Ashra thing is there for the sake of convenience (and for most of the later stuff of the full-fledged band), and I really don't understand what the heck is Cluster looking for in Krautrock... OK, for the first two albums maybe; but the rest (I don't say bad, they're progressive electronics!)one adition: Manuel Götsching's first solo release is also a classic IMHO... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 10:49
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90601">ASH RA TEMPEL - Join Inn
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=90594 - AMON DÜÜL II - Phallus Dei
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 10:28
Posted By: Vibrationbaby Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 10:39
Posted By: DallasBryan Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 11:08
Posted By: micky Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 11:16
Posted By: philippe Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 11:41
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