SEBTP v WYWH
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Topic: SEBTP v WYWH
Posted By: Progger
Subject: SEBTP v WYWH
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:38
| IMO 'Wish You Were Here' should be bumber two behind CTTE in the prog archives chart but what do you think? |
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:40
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But CTTE is number 2 behind SEBTP. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:42
Yeah, but it won't be for long. Besides, we all know CTTE is the best prog album of all time!
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Snow Dog wrote:Posted By: Hacketeer
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:42
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While I reckon WYWH is 'Floyds best work, it comes nowhere near SEBTP! ------------- "Just keep me nose clean, egg, chips & beans, I'm always full of steam" |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:43
Well thats a matter of opinion isn't it.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:44
| I just think Genesis is a much better band all around than PF and Yes. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:45
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SEBTP. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! http://www.last.fm/music/Exerior" rel="nofollow - EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway! |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:45
| I still don't understand why Selling England is above Foxtrot, though! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:51
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SEBTP! ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 18:52
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Selling England is miles upon miles in front of Wish You Were Here, probably the most overrated album in the top ten. Animals is ways better, I've always considered Wish You Were Here to be extremely weak for an album of that stature. Selling England on the other hand is excellent and I enjoy listening to it a lot. -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:01
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I went with Selling England, too. E ------------- 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:08
On SELLING ENGLAND production is much better, all the musicians play better, and PG sings better. And oh, it's also got better tunes than FOXTROT! FOXTROT's strongest points, in my view, are the triumphant climax of "Supper's Ready", which Genesis never equalled, and the dark mood of menace, so typical of early Genesis, which disappeared after this album. |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:13
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As much as I love WYWH, SEBTP would be my desert island choice.
------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 19:37
No, I'd rather see Zeuhl albums take the top two spots (or many other albums). When you say better, do you mean better for me (as in subjective response), or an objective response? Or both? Love Wish You Were Here and at least half of SEbtP. As better is largely in the ear of the behearer (there are criteria one can follow to judge), I can't really objectively say. I do find Wish You Were Here much more consistent. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 20:07
| Wish You Were Here is spacial perfection, if space is what you want. Selling England By The Pound is great also, but isn't quite the epitome of it's genre, while Wish You Were Here is. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 20:22
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I don't want it to be #2, but I like it more than SEBTP, which I think
is overrated. I much prefer Foxtrot and The Lamb both of which I think
would be worthy to be #2. But anyway, WYWH.
------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: febus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 20:25
Does anybody know something else beside Yes, Genesis and pfloyd around here?
Why not try a good old GURU GURU or HatfielD AND THE NORTH for a change?
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 21:28
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Tough choice, but I eventually plumped for SEBtP.
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 21:39
| Wish You Were Here |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:05
WYWH is flawless... Selling is just excellent WYWH it must be
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:09
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I really love both albums, selling england is my favourite album from genesis, and Wish you were here, my favourite from floyd, but Pink floyd is my favourite band, so, I chose WYWH ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/sydbarrettg.jpg/" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:20
Hmmm, that sounds like an idea for a poll ? I wonder if there's anyone out there that likes those groups that might want to start one ?  |
Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 01:17
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Selling England is better than Wish you were here and Close to the Edge, but Foxtrot is better than Selling England by the Pound, but my top 10 differs from this site's. ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 01:53
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Selling England By The Pound is imo better than Wish You Were Here, Though I prefer the overall work of Pink Floyd to Genesis. -------------  "Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:01
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Shine On You Crazy Diamond is one of the best songs I ever heard, probably in my top 5 or even top 3 of favourite songs, but I think the rest of WYWH is not as good. I think Dark Side Of The Moon had a better balance.
Genesis' Selling England is an album where I think there are no weak songs. Not to everybody's taste (in particular I Know What I Like and More Fool Me) but for me, musically, Selling England is a very even album, with no fillers, and with the two best tracks they ever made, Firth Of Fifth and Cinema Show.
So I choose Selling England.
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:13
i second that... ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:44
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They are all so fine it makes the poll a bit redundant!....but for pure flawlessness....WYWH ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 07:41
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Wish You Were Here is my favorite album ever
------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 08:06
| The Floyd album. It doesn't have any weak point. |
Posted By: seamus
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 08:49
| SEBTP?...mmmmmm.......NO!!! SOYCD,WTTM,HAC,WYWH.....this album is a MASTERPIECE of ROCK HISTORY!!!!!! |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 08:54
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Wish You Were Here !
SEBTP have to many boring moments for it to be the best or even in the top 10 prog albums imo, sure its a good albums but far from my fav genesis or anything, the lamb is far and away much beter and the best genesis album. ------------- 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 12:57
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Selling England... by far!!! ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:37
One of the hardest polls ever.... overall, I'd say WYWH, but Firth of Fifth is just too much too handle for any album this side of The Dream or TFk for me... so, again...SEBTP ------------- 
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:38
WYWH after thinking hard and long  .
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:42
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There are more songs I don't like on SEBTP (I Know What I Like, More Fool Me, and the highly overrated The Battle of Epping Forest) than on WYWH, so I vote WYWH. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: raindance
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 19:27
I agree
 I recently saw the Musical Box and The Battle of Epping Forest killed the show. BTW, glad to see WYWH won this poll.
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Posted By: willy
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 22:10
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Selling England is just slightly more entertaining to me.
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Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 22:35
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SEBTP because of Dancing With...., Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show, whereas WYWH can only put up Shine on you Crazy Diamond...therefore SEBTP (note both are not as good as CTTE)... ------------- To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica) |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 23:37
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SEBTP pwns, as much as I like Wish You... Oh, and Foxtrot is the greatest prog album of all time ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Kill Fede
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 06:08
| Selling the England by the pound |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 13:06
| Both great albums, a tough choice, but if I could pick only one it would have to be Selling England by the Pound - my favourite Genesis album, some great tracks; WYWH is great as well but doesn't have the same high points for me, and isn't my favourite Floyd album (that's Animals) |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 07:16
| Tough choice, voted Wish but Selling is great too |
Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 08:03
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WYWH! ------------- I'm running still, I shall until, one day I hope that I'll arrive |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 10:39
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Funnily enough, I've just finished playing 'Selling England' and, of course, I voted for that. It's not my favourite Genesis album, in fact it doesn't make my top three, but I prefer it to WYWH. When 'Wish' was released, I, and other Floyd fans I knew, were quite disappointed in it. Over the years I have grown to like it more, and it's probably my number three Floyd album now, behind 'Meddle' and 'Dark Side', but it's not in my top twenty albums. Mind you, 'Close To The Edge' isn't in my top four Yes albums either! |
It comes in fifth, behind 'TFTO', 'Fragile', 'Relayer' & GFTO'. It's a decent album nevertheless. Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 12:50
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that is not a very hard choice for me. it has to be Wish you Were Here. -------------  JOIN THE COMMUNIST PARTY! |
Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:25
So? I struggle to see your point. SEBTP is number one and where it should be. Wish You Were Here is lucky to be number three, as great as it is. But, when albums are that high does it really matter what its exact place is?
PS The progarchives list doesnt mean crap. So, I wouldn't focus on changing it because I, for one, won't be told what albums are beter than others by a website, no offense, progarchives.
PPS I do love the constant battle between SEBTP and CTTE. ------------- [signature] |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:29
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"Wish You Were Here" gets more rotation in my library. Great headphone album too. ------------- 
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 06:08
Indeed - no more needs to be said!
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Posted By: Prayermad
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 08:38
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A close call for Wywh in my opinion. I don't think Selling England is a masterpiece, because it has a couple of flawed tracks. Wywh is closer to perfection, again, imho.
I think both Foxtrot and Nursery Cryme > Selling England, and i think Animals > Wywh.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 12:39
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Selling England - no contest. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: cyberiancygnus
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 16:37
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i will vote for SEBTP , although WYWH is amazing i think 'welcome to the machine' and 'have a cigar' are 4* songs instead of 5* ....however my personal fav is TLLDOB -------------  
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 16:40
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OA, IMPATKOW. IIRA!!! ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 17:15
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WYWH is perfect in almost every way... Selling not
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 18:16
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This whole voting thing is idiotic, but what the hell, I like to play idiotic games sometimes myself SEBTP, of course it's a great album, but it's a collection of music, composed separatly and not with a unified vision. Epping Forest, I know its a fun song an all, but it de-engergizes the ablum length experience a bit.
Terror trumps forest songs, at least to my mind. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
. WYWH wins only because (1) it captivates the listener from beginning to end, without let up. You leave the LP altered, somber, in awe of the magic it has worked on you. "Welcome to the Machine;" well, what can I say, if any song has the power to mesmerize and horrify, it is that one.