Kayo Dot's "Coyote"
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Topic: Kayo Dot's "Coyote"
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Subject: Kayo Dot's "Coyote"
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:09
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So I just purchased KD's "Coyote". This will be my first experience with this band (and RIO/Avant-Garde, in general).
I'm rather excited to listen to it and I hope it's a great one
 Without spilling too much, how would you guys rate the album? One of your favorites of the year?; KD's best work?; etc. ------------- 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:14
| I rate it 9 out of 10, but I'm a fan person. I did take me a lot to get into it (you might expect the same), since the shift in style is quite strong. It's more of a new-wave/goth meets psychedelic jazz album, definitely not the usual "prog" or the usual Kayo Dot. Not something to appeal too many tastes from PA; I can agree with all the takes on this album that I've seen so far (including **). |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:19
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^ Yeah, I'm expecting it to be a grower. Sounds pretty interesting.
I'll post something later regarding my first listen. -------------
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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:24
I think, happily you choosed the right KD album, if you want to taste avant 
Previous KD albums are quite different (what doesn't mean - not so good, just -different) |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:31
Indeed the taste I was going for was avant
 I've been meaning to check out their previous albums...I know I definitely will in the near future.
Thanks for your comments guys, I'll appreciate any feedback  -------------
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snobb wrote:Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:34
| it's a gooder. Make sure to try Choirs of the Eye next |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:37
And THAT'S the one I will surely get afterwards  -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:39
| Make sure to check this out, too, it's a freebie: forum_posts.asp?TID=72880 - Listen to the music of today / #3 Kayo Dot |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:47
^ Thanks sir  -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:51
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It would have been a good idea for you to check that thread before commiting to purchase
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:53
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^ Oh well
It's a small risk and I only paid $4.95 for it on Amazon, so not too shabby
The mp3 download on your thread, however, is not available anymore...what did that contain? -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 12:58
It was a download link for the same file that is being streamed in the other link (a full live performance of Coyote). Thanks for noticing, I removed the dead link. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:03
Oh ok, and was it free? 
You're welcome -------------
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:06
| Do you agree that Kayo dot have post rock influences? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:10
Yeap. Someone ripped the online radio streaming and reuploaded it. @Geo: IMO there aren't post-rock influences in Toby Driver's bands, but there are similarities, yes. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:13
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^ Oh man that sucks. Well, at least I have the album now -------------
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:14
You can rip the stream too if you like it and want to keep it on your PC, it's simple. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:25
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^ I don't think I will, I've never been a fan of live albums
But thanks for your help though! :) -------------
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 13:25
That's what I wanted to hear. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 14:54
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Its the best album I've heard from this year by some distance, in fact its about as good as their classic album Choirs of the Eye, which means its one of the best albums I have. Of course, I am a huge Toby Driver fanboy. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:01
Whoa, that's scarily similar to what I was gonna post  ------------- 
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:11
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^ We got a couple of fanboys here
Looks like I picked the right one...hopefully "Coyote" will capture my interest even further and make me want to buy more of their albums. -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 15:11
Thats a very common occurance between us! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 16:31
i am in! ------------- 
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 20:25
| A good prog album, evoking prog in the 70s vein. The music seems to be well developed, none of the abrupt or tangential transitions that irk me in much modern prog. But in terms of moods and emotions, it is a bit too one dimensional to hold my interest all the way through. |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: November 15 2010 at 20:42
I definitely wouldn't call it evocative of the 70s, but I suppose people interpret music differently... It is a great album, though, and if you like it I would definitely agree with the recommendation to get Choirs of the Eye next. ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 01:24
It's a free streaming of a live performance of Coyote. But did you just do a review based on a listen of it?  |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 04:43
You can also stream Blue Lambency Downward for free over here: http://www.bluelambencydownward.com/ - http://www.bluelambencydownward.com/ -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:10
At the risk of sounding like a newbie, how do you stream the album?   -------------
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:11
| You wasted your money. Next time, get some real music. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:23
Why, Walter! -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 10:30
That depends on what you associate with the 70s. 70s is not just Hammonds and symph prog, it was also the decade of Magma, Can, Kraftwerk and many other adventurous acts. Like those bands, Kayo Dot are able to experiment within the framework of satisfying and cohesive development which is not my experience with modern prog.
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 17:46
What? A review after a listen of a live performance... what? |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 18:21
Ah, I misunderstood your first post. ------------- "The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 18:41
That's just not right; you might want to edit/delete that review, mate. I wouldn't review, for example, Porcupine Tree's "Fear of a Blank Planet" album only after listening to the live performance on the Anesthetize dvd. What if the performance/recording quality sucks compared to the actual album? It's just not fair to the artist (who wants positive publicity of his work) and to the fan that wants to spread the word.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 19:17
| Walter's new avatar sucks :( |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: November 16 2010 at 19:25
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 07:18
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 08:21
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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:01
Ignorant beyond belief! Toby Driver is a better composer than any of your pre-80's heroes. Even Frank Zappa doesn't come close to Driver as a composer, and I love Zappa just as much as you do... But could you explain why you don't consider Driver's music as such? What exactly is missing? ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 12:13
| no doubt he's never heard any |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 16:18
No no! Toby http://tobydriver.blogspot.com/2010/11/he-gets-it.html - liked it !  |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 17:30
Thats actually quite funny! ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 17:32
| That live performance is better than the album version, IMO anyway. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 17:53
Wait for a box with antlers/little play buttons to pop up in the middle, then click the little play button and it should start. It seemed to take a minute or two to load up. -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 17 2010 at 20:45
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^ Got it sir, thanks -------------
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:12
Gotta agree on this 
I sincerely doubt ol' Walter has heard any, but eh, at least he's consistent -------------
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 11:33
In the face.  ------------- 
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 12:17
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LOL @ the blog.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 08:14
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Coyote is definitely better than BLD...in fact some times I thought to myself, "Wow it's like the guy read my review of BLD and fixed everything."
Now I suspect he has read the review. (I don't take any credit, I just said, this is what I don't like about the album, and referenced Part the Second to show that they guy could do better)
Things just move and hold interest so much better.
And to Walter, listen to Weather Report's I Sing the Body Electric and then come back to Coyote. You might appreciate it more. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:22
Walter has never heard Coyote, and he's not going to listen to it |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 01:28
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Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 05:15
| ACR: I just read the review in question and it's kind of embarrassing. I hope you realise Driver's making fun of you. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 05:17
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^ I don't think Toby's making fun, at all. |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 05:19
My favourite line of ACR's Coyote review:
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 05:31
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I sent a message to Toby on his blog. I can't touch that review now - its too priceless the way it is. The things he quoted are hilarious, i cant believe i wrote all that. What an attack. Oh well, the good news is today I was employed to do some writing for someone. It's for kids so not too much venomous attacking... -------------
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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 05:32
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 06:50
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Finally, after a couple of hard and frustrating attempts to break the Toby Driver code, I'm finally digging one of his albums: Blue Lambency Downward is totally speaking to me. Nice! I'll need to revisit Coyote soon! |
Posted By: Textbook
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 13:52
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ACR: I dunno, the review seemed to come from the POV of an emotionally conservative square. I mean the comment about your kids listening to it and everything, it just seemed like you have pre concieved notions about what music is allowed to do and are afraid of the dark or something. I'm not telling you Coyote's a great album, I haven't even heard it, but just reading your review you came off as something of a fuddy duddy. It's like Toby succeeded exactly in what he was trying to do, evoke the pain of losing a friend (and lover I've heard) to cancer and you were like "Well you're not allowed to do that, only sunshine and bunny rabbits please."
ACR you're a nice guy and this isn't meant as an attack, just saying what i think the problem with the review was.
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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 14:36
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Bonnek, if you can handle BLD, definitely come back to Coyote! ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 21:01
I thought pretty much the exact same things when reading his review  -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: December 08 2010 at 21:02
Definitely revisit it. It's starting to grow on me.  -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 16:44
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My vinyl just came in the mail. I'm a little ticked because the edges got a little crinkled in shipping, but besides that it's really stunning. Not as great looking as the motW Part The Second, but I'll still take it. I noticed that Toby shipped this using his return address. Seems so strange that an artist could do this without being super stalked. It's such a different dynamic from being a child when I listened to mostly mega-bands like The Beatles or Led Zeppelin. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 16:46
^ I noticed that too. I kept the address. 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 16:48
we should send a Shred Room Strike Team to kidnap him  |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 16:48
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I didn't want to say anything, but yeah I am too. I looked at his street on google maps street view. I feel like such a creep for doing it, but I couldn't resist. Strange how music can make you so voyeuristic. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 16:58
I didn't think of that, but now I feel compelled to do it. If you get Mia's address though, make sure to remember me. Anyone here going to the Tartar Lamb II launch party? I know Joel donated that much, but he (obviously) can't attend. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 17:09
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Unfortunately at the time I didn't have the money to donate that much. I wish it was still open, I'd drop $100 their way. I don't have her address, but her and I were born on the same day if that helps you in any way.
------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 17:37
USPS or a private company? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 17:43
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What do you think? Stupid USPS ruining my life as always. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:58
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At least you got it. Stupid DHL lost a package of mine a few months ago. ------------- 
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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 19:05
I can't attend the Tartar Lamb II party, seeing as it is halfway across the country for me.  Still waiting on my PtS vinyl I ordered in October, though it's probably sitting in the mail room at my dorm right now. -------------  
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 19:27
That's nothing. My PtS vinyl (numbered as ANTI-001, I think it's the first copy) came warped pretty bad. No issues with playing though, sounded nice through gramps' 80's Technics turntable. I left it at his house under other 50 albums and I'll come back in a month or so. Maybe it'll unwarp, dunno.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:07
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You Kayo Dot fans are hardcore. Google Maps lol. But yeah Coyote is outstanding. Tied for my #1 of the year right now. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:48
They didn't reimburse you? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:49
That sucks. What kind of a scam is Toby running here with these faulty vinyls? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:50
It's at least harmless in that it doesn't bother him or really invade his privacy at all. What's it tied with? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:50
Yugen's Iridule.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 20:51
I happen to know Kerry Livgren's address and home phone number. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 21:23
It arrived five months later -------------
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 21:26
I was supposed to get a "promo" CD for this Italian avant band we were evaluating when I was on the team - so weeks go by and it never shows, I figure the band just decided F it and decided not to send. I received the CD about 6 months later.
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Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 22:49
Well, it's partially my fault. I got the cheapest shipping there was (thanks, mom), and you can't really trust the mail guys in this country.
LMAO
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Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: January 07 2011 at 23:06
| I tend to like Coyote better in concept than practice, but it is very, very slowly, growing on me. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:40
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What does that mean exactly? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:42
That happened to me too with the USPS. I ordered from a guy via amazon. When the cd hadn't come I contacted him. He said the post office had no record of the package existing so he gave me a refund. I got the cd about a year later. You couldn't even see the packaging because it had so many USPS mailing labels on it. The thing had been to about 25 states in that time. I have no idea how that happens. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:45
| jeez, your crazy country and its postal service |
Posted By: VanVanVan
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:53
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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 22:59
I wish I could go The 25$ more for 3 or 4 extra CD's was a good deal though, with or without the partay.-------------
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Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 23:26
I wrote my review today, if anyone read it. It probably went from 2 to 3 stars in the past 2 listenings from today and yesterday.
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 08:11
LOL, the US postal services are actually worst than the BR postal services ( ). There ARE advantages in living in an emerging coutry after all. 
You should pay him a visit. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:40
Gotcha. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 13:07
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