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    Posted: April 25 2020 at 06:20
What is the oldest trace of PROGRESSIVE ROCK outside United Kingdom, United States of America, Germany, Italy and France (chosen hotspots). I can think of Aphrodites Child as an example of progressive rock that developed elswere, in Greece.

I think there could be some interesting finds in this thread, some hidden gems of progressive rock movement on unsuspected places, early on.

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As Aphrodites Child only had one Prog Album which was recorded while they where exciled
in France and their earlier stuff is more Psych Pop there is more in that direction.
 
Niemen recorded in Poland since the late 60s and had a Prog Album in '69
OS Mutantes made Space Rock Psych since the late 60s (Brasil)
Collegium Musicum where active in the late 60s (Slovakia)
Trúbrot made an album in '69 (Iceland)


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GOLDEN MILES: AUSTRALIAN PROGRESSIVE ROCK 1969-1974

 
 

Boxset/Compilation, released in 1994

Songs / Tracks Listing

Disc 1:

1. No Dying In The Dark [BAKERY] (3:11)
2. Travelling South [CARSON] (3:10)
3. Lotus 1 [LOTUS] (3:45)
4. Golden Miles [HEALING FORCE] (3:19)
5. Inner Spring [BULLDOG] (2:47]
6. Melodies Of St. Kilda/Southern Cross [MASTERS' APPRENTICES] (7:54)
7. Girl Of 17 [GALADRIEL] (4:39)
8. Lady Sunshine [TAMAM SHUD] (4:35)
9. You Realise You Realise [TULLY] (2:56)
10. I Am The Sea [WILD CHERRIES] (3:27)
11. Fanciful Flights Of Mind [JEFF ST. JOHN'S COPPERWINE] (3:23)
12. Getting Through [MELISSA] (4:08)
13. Here It Comes Again [PIRANA] (2:44)
14. Wichita Lineman [KING HARVEST] (4:10)
15. Freedom Train [FRIENDS] (3:55)
16. Seasons Of Change [FRATERNITY] (3:34)
17. Satan's Woman [FRESHWATER] (2:59)
18. Ain't No Loving Left [FANNY ADAMS] (6:45)

Total Time: 72:01

Disc 2:

1. Make You're your Stash [DADDY COOL] (6:04)
2. Superbody [Spectrum] (9:12)
3. The Day Superman Got Busted [COMPANY CAINE] (6:20)
4. Free [KAHVAS JUTE] (5:12)
5. Long Legged Lovely [BLACKFEATHER] (7:30)
6. Shake Off [TYMEPLACE] (8:12)
7. Make It Begin [SONS OF THE VEGETAL MOTHER] (5:00)
8. Human Being [COLOURED BALLS] (6:00)
9. 'til My Death [BUFFALO] (5:34)
10. 12lb Toothbrush [MADDER LAKE] (6:00)
11. Extra Terrestrial Boogie [MACKENZIE THEORY] (5:47)
12. Darkness [DRAGON] (4:43)

Total Time: 75:46

Two-disc total time: 147:47

Line-up / Musicians

BAKERY / Artist (Group)
BLACKFEATHER / Artist (Group)
BUFFALO / Artist (Group)
BULLDOG / Artist (Group)
CARSON / Artist (Group)
COLOURED BALLS / Artist (Group)
COMPANY CAINE / Artist (Group)
DADDY COOL / Artist (Group)
DRAGON / Artist (Group)
FANNY ADAMS / Artist (Group)
FRATERNITY / Artist (Group)
FRESHWATER / Artist (Group)
FRIENDS / Artist (Group)
GALADRIEL / Artist (Group)
HEALING FORCE / Artist (Group)
JEFF ST. JOHN'S COPPERWINE / Artist (Group)
KAHVAS JUTE / Artist (Group)
KING HARVEST / Artist (Group)
LOTUS / Artist (Group)
MACKENZIE THEORY / Artist (Group)
MADDER LAKE / Artist (Group)
MASTERS' APPRENTICES / Artist (Group)
MELISSA / Artist (Group)
PIRANA / Artist (Group)
SONS OF THE VEGETAL MOTHER / Artist (Group)
SPECTRUM / Artist (Group)
TAMAM SHUD / Artist (Group)
TULLY / Artist (Group)
TYMEPLACE / Artist (Group)
WILD CHERRIES / Artist (Group)

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1994 two-disc compilation of Australian progressive rock music from Raven Records, Catalogue No. RVCD - 39
CD booklet has a small biography on each band and the complied tracks from Australian rock historian Glenn A. Baker

 
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The oldest Prog song I can think of from Portugal, released in 1971.
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The oldest prog album listed on RYM is from Hansson & Karlsson in 1967 Sweden

As far as places like Japan are concerned perhaps Flower Travelin Band which debuted in 1970

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The answer is: former Yugoslavia.


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Here in +31 it started in '68-'69 with bands such as Groep 1850, Ekseption and Brainbox.
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Wigwam predecessor Blues Section made an album in 1967 in Finland, here´s greatest song from it:
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The band Ache from Denmark(first album was recorded in 1969 eventhough it wasn't released until 1970) and also enigmatic by Czeslaw Niemen(1969 although wikipedia has the release dat as Jan. 1970 so it was at least recorded in 1969 like the Ache album).



I'm not sure what else. Maybe the Collectors from Canada.


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Omega from Hungary; I guess its pop psych proto prog (or something); 1969
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I nearly forgot about Omega. Great band! Haven't listened to them in ages.
Here is my favourite song by them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNrh17yubA


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Korni Grupa were the first in Yugoslavia with a very good and interesting album in 1972:


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Although there was lots of proto-prog so far i have to agree with Rate Your Music that Hansson & Karlsson delivered the first TRUE prog rock album in 1967. Yes, it's Bo Hansson

Granted it's not the best prog album ever. Not even close but it did come out before The Nice.

Some may call this proto-prog but it has the earliest characteristics of what are prog

I'm sure the debate will never end but if this indeed prog then the answer is SWEDEN!

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(Without wishing to rub the hippy genie up the wrong way and out of his lava lamp...) isn't this something that Pedro/Moshkito can wax lyrical about? (he's always banging on about what he deems the ethnocentrism of the UK and USA when it comes to the source of Prog.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Although there was lots of proto-prog so far i have to agree with Rate Your Music that Hansson & Karlsson delivered the first TRUE prog rock album in 1967. Yes, it's Bo Hansson

Granted it's not the best prog album ever. Not even close but it did come out before The Nice.

Some may call this proto-prog but it has the earliest characteristics of what are prog

I'm sure the debate will never end but if this indeed prog then the answer is SWEDEN!



This is thread of outside US-albums, but do Monument came before Zappa´s Absolutely Free? Because I have thought it was the first true prog album (two side long epics, the first one is really prog all the way!).
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^ Monument? Don't know them. What's the album title?

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ Monument? Don't know them. What's the album title?

I believe he was referring to the first Hansson and Karlsson album called monument and was suggesting that Absolutely Free(the Mothers of Invention album)came before it. However, I think he meant to say Freak Out which is from 1966 and features the twelve minute track "return of the son of monster magnet." 


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Korni Grupa were the first in Yugoslavia with a very good and interesting album in 1972:


Prior to their full-length album, Korni Grupa achieved two of stylistically uncompromising "Progressive rock" EPs.

First EP that features a 17-minute long song was released in 1969 :



In 1971, Korni Grupa released second EP with a 28-minute long song titled "1941" :



The same year, the singer Dado Topić left the band and formed his own band TIME that released a fantastic self-titled album in 1972 :



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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ Monument? Don't know them. What's the album title?
Oh God, are you drinking? Smile It´s just that Hansson Karlsson album you put (from youtube) here saying it´s the first prog album! That album name is "Monument".
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ Monument? Don't know them. What's the album title?

I believe he was referring to the fist Hansson and Karlsson album called monument and was suggesting that Absolutely Free(the Mothers of Invention album)came before it. However, I think he meant to say Freak Out which is from 1966 and features the twelve minute track "return of the son of monster magnet." 
No, I mean Absolutely Free. I think Freak Out is much more psych album than prog. Absolutely Free came 26th May 1967, but I can´t find the release date of Monument anywhere.
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