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NutterAlert ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2005 Location: In transition Status: Offline Points: 2808 |
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Pawn Hearts. Enjoy reading in The Book how Hugh Banton was hopeful of more commercial success after tracks like 'Killer' on H>He, and was hoping for more of the same on the next album, only for Peter Hammill to dash his hopes by presenting a sprawling 23 minute masterpiece written in an ice-cream van during a chaotic Italian Tour.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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The force was strong in 1971.
Have loved all three albums and all three tracks, and if you were just asking for favourite I'd be with VdGG in both cases -- at others times I might have been with the other choices. I'm crap at doing best, unless it's best for me. That said, my intuition, not that one should put too much trust in one's intuition, tells me that not only is Pawn Hearts my favourite of these, but it is the truest masterpiece of these. It is also the album of these three that I would call the masterpiece of the band, so that alone gives it a significant edge. That's actually an easy choice for me despite that Pink Floyd would generally and globally be considered the most significant of these bands. As to the tracks, this is a little harder for me, "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" is my favourite, and I think it amazing, but ultimately I think "Echoes" more significant in various ways, so it will get my vote. That said, both are really significant to the bands' oeuvres. Well, all of these tracks are in that sense, but Focus' later "Hamburger Concerto" seems more significant to me than "Eruption". By the way, I know that Micky derides "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", but to me it sounds brilliant. My favourite long track by Pink Floyd, I'd call it a suite rather than an epic, is "Atom Heart Mother", and purely as my favourite, that would give "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers", which also has a suite quality, a run for the money. Edited by Logan - October 01 2019 at 11:10 |
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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Is that the same dude who say that everything Tull after Aqualung is boring as sh*t? With such unsophisticated claims it's hard to take what the guy is saying seriously. |
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dr wu23 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20702 |
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I'll take Meddle.....if I had to listen to it for ever it would be ok....Focus 2 also ,but Pawn Hearts would eventually give me a nervous breakdown. ;)
btw...The Mickster knows his music.....simply because he doesn't drool all over VDGG, like so many here, means little in my book.
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Pawn/Pawn Hearts/Hearts
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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I consider Micky to be an online friend, but I may have been trolling a bit. Micky is a character, but then so is Micky Mouse. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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^ Nothing personal against him either but his tendency for bad-mouthing is pretty intense at times and perfectly wearisome. I sometimes have the impression that the guy is on a mission...
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38883 |
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I don't want to bad mouth Micky, I'd much rather do that to his face. :) He's a character, as I said, and he has gone through a lot it seems. I think he has a good heart, and the sh*t-kicking antics are more like schtick-kicking antics. It can be very abrasive, but we can all be abrasive.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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someone_else ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24859 |
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Meddle > Focus II > Pawn Hearts This goes for both the album and the epic.
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Barbu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30855 |
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I usually avoid reading those highly abrasive posters but in this particular case it's just impossible to ignore him since when he's here...he's all over the f**king place!
![]() but don't get me wrong, I do not dislike the dude, I simply deplores his tactics. Je pense que j'ai dit ce que j'avais à dire. Edited by Barbu - October 01 2019 at 19:14 |
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iluvmarillion ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 3247 |
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Pawn Hearts is the best album and Meddle has the best epic. Focus II is a great album but it doesn't match the class of the other two.
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Meddle x2.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9879 |
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Best album Hearts Best epic Echoes
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VdGG for both questions.
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Pawn Hearts is more consistent as an album, but I think I prefer
"Eruption" over "A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers" (I do like the latter,
but it's probably my least favourite track on Hearts). I'm pretty sure that at this point I've extracted everything out of Meddle that I ever will, to the point where listening to it just doesn't feel worth the time anymore.
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