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Poll Question: Which album least lived up to your expectations?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2008 at 00:08
Why did Délicieuse Créature have to end?  It's bloody amazing.

By the way, if you haven't done so already, check out Volapük.

Question: what is the availability of Vortex on CD?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 23:56
I'm listening to Vortex's debut again and I know it'll sound odd to say this, but I reviewed this album and now it sounds completely unfamiliar to me!

It's brilliant as ever, but I don't remember any of it. LOL

Also, Les Morts Vont Vite and Triskaidekaphobie are two of the few album titles I always spell incorrectly. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 23:52
I love Shub-Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite.  One of my favourite albums, and strangely enough, I considered adding S-N to this poll (cause of the darkness).

I actually did a poll a few weeks ago that mentioned that album:  The only good thread is a mort thread.

I'm pretty sure we've talked about Vortex before, when you acquired the debut (or was that someone else)?

No, I never did get ES's second.  Heard some of it it though and liked what I heard.

I didn't really expect much in the way of voting, these are strong albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 23:33
Try Shub-Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite, it'll blow your mind!

I reviewed a Vortex album didn't I?  I'm sure I did.  It's just I cannot remember the music... I think I'll to have spin them again.

Have you heard Eider Stellaire's second yet?  Their best album in my opinion is their unreleased one, which actually is the most Zeuhl one.

This is the most successful poll ever, nobody has voted. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 23:23
James: opted not to have a "none" option this time, or an "all" option, though that would usually be more my style.  People can always say so in posts if they wish.  I am now regretting that I didn't include a "nun" option, however.  I certainly did consider adding Art Zoyd, too many albums, though (all studio albums or none for my purposes).  Listening to Eider Stellaire I in honour of your mention (awesome album), which interrupts a Mekanik Kommandoh session. 

Laplace, UZed is just right.

Gratuitous ZardoZ quote (a film with Connery playing an exterminator named Zed in a red diaper)

"We've all been uzed."
"And re-uzed."
"And abuzed!"
And amuzed."

Actually, I wouldn't say i was disappointed, but the first album I heard of Univers Zero was Heresie, and I was a little underwhelmed (unlike with my first Present album -- double album in fact -- Triskaidekaphobie/ Le Poison Qui Rend Fou and my first Vortex album, Les Cycles de Thanatos).  I think I got Vortex's and UZ's at the same time, and Vortex held my interest more.  I did like UZ's though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:51
I haven't really liked the last three UZ albums.

Lapirella tasted 1313 and declared, "Why, this is far too sour!" Then, she nibbled on Implosion and remarked that it seemed far too sweet. But when she came to sample UZed, her verdict was that it was *just right*.

Or something ;P ze point being zat UZ had something good going in the late '80s and I listen to that side of them much more than Heresie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:46
Where's the none option?

Now if you'd stuck in Art Zoyd's Nosferatu...

I've yet to hear '80s UZ or Present, so it's hard for me to vote on this.  I've heard everything by Vortex too and none of them have disappointed me.

However, Eider Stellaire's second album did disappoint me, but that's not on the list eirher.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:33
I've only heard UZ unfortunately, but I can honestly say I didn't dislike any of their work. Then again I need to hear it more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:27
Weston, I like every UZ album I know.  Present is excellent and worth checking out too.

Incidentally, I almost entitled this "biggest sell-out." :)

I haven't been disappointed with any Present, UZ, or Vortex albums, and I have almost all of the studio ones, but we're bound to find someone who has been disappointed.  '80s music doesn't get a lot of respect from quite a few people here, and certainly UZ is such a big name that many of those not into avant generally might have risked it based on glowing reviews.

I know at least one forum member here who didn't get the big deal with Vortex.

Thought this might be a rather interesting or strange companion piece to Cacho's most disappointing Genesis and Yes polls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:06
I can't vote because I only have Implosion - and I LOVE it.  Not sure how it can not live up to expectations, unless by being a little more accessible than the clips I've heard from the other UZ albums. I expect to dip into the backlog as soon as budget allows

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 22:01
I haven't really strayed from any of these bands' "glory periods," but I've yet to be disappointed by any album I've heard by any of theres guys.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2008 at 21:58
Foregoing any anxiety over riding on the coattails of others, the success of Cacho's Genesis' and Yes' "most disappointing albums" threads led to this. 

If rock needn't be innovative to be considered Progressive Rock, then screw originality. ;)

'Twas originally just to be about the Belgian bands UZ and Present, but I opted to throw Vortex into the whirlpool.  The reason being simply that I discovered Vortex around the same time as UZ, and Present a little later.

I'm only referring to studio albums here... This is about the album that didn't live up to your expectations, maybe it's the only album you heard of that band... That's fine.  Maybe it's where the band changed direction.  Maybe it's the album where you think the band sold its soul to commercial rock n' roll or the teeny-bop pop music scene. Darn those sell-out albums!  From Rock in Opposition to pablum pop -- sad  I know I steer clear of Univers Zero's and Present's Spice Girls phase.  It's not about what you think is the worst album per se, of course it might well be the the one you consider worst, maybe just the one that you had the highest expectations of but the album did not live up to what you were hoping for.


UNIVERS ZERO Albums (8)


1977
Univers Zero (1313)
4.11
(20 ratings)

1979
Heresie
4.28
(43 ratings)

1981
Ceux Du Dehors
3.96
(25 ratings)

1984
Uzed
4.62
(15 ratings)

1986
Heatwave
3.85
(21 ratings)

1999
The Hard Quest
3.74
(11 ratings)

2002
Rhythmix
3.53
(10 ratings)

2004
Implosion
4.20
(15 ratings)

PRESENT Albums (6)


1981
Triskaidekaphobie
4.26
(11 ratings)

1985
Le Poison Qui Rend Fou
4.32
(9 ratings)

1993
C.O.D. Performance
3.50
(4 ratings)

1998
Certitudes
4.03
(8 ratings)

1999
No 6
4.07
(13 ratings)

2001
High Infidelity
4.02
(10 ratings)


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VORTEX Albums (2)


1975
Vortex
4.29
(7 ratings)

1979
Les Cycles De Thanatos
4.68
(8 ratings)


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