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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19257 |
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Some people accused my last poll of Steely Dan and APP of being a mismatch. They couldn't understand why I put them together despite the fact that I made it very clear why at the beginning(but I won't go into that here). Suffice it to say I decided to put Steely Dan up against a band who is maybe a bit more similar soundwise. Some might disagree here also but as they say you can't please everyone. For those wondering about Chicago their earlier stuff was often quite progressive so please keep that in mind before voting and don't vote if you only know the hits. The same goes for both bands. I want this to be fair and not be seen as a battle between two pop bands but rather two very talented and musically creative bands(which I believe they both were). So again please only vote if you are very familiar with at least the bulk of the seventies and more progressive material by both of these bands. Thanks.
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LAM-SGC ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 26 2018 Location: se Status: Offline Points: 1551 |
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Can't stand either of them.
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progmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 22 2009 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 1785 |
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I don't think there are any similarities between Chicago and Steely Dan soundwise. As for who is better, Chicago's first few albums are great but they quickly descended into schlock; Steely Dan was pretty consistent -- going with Dan.
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PROGMATIC
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Morningrise ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 18 2009 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 2766 |
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Steely Dan. "Aja" and "Pretzel Logic" wipe out everything Chicago has put out
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tboyd1802 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 01 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 898 |
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Steeley Dan all day, any day...
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He neither drank, smoked, nor rode a bicycle. Living frugally, saving his money, he died early, surrounded by greedy relatives. It was a great lesson to me -- John Barrymore
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9173 |
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I prefer Chicago on the strength of some early material, but I'm definitely not a fan. Steely - forget it
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19257 |
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So which one did you vote for?
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The.Crimson.King ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
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Chicago. I really like a lot of their 60's/early 70's stuff, but with Steely Dan 'Reelin in the Years' is the only thing I've ever liked.
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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Hard choice, since both had some very good progressive material. I'll vote for Steely Dan, not that I prefer it to Chicago, but for it's consistency, even during their pop era.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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ugh Chicago
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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better attempt this time I suppose.... both bands were American so the comparison has that going for it.
Love Chicago.. that Grts. Hits album, you know the one i am talking about, should be in every single music lovers possession. The Dan however was on a whole different level.
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Icarium ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34090 |
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Chicago felt more like a band and Steely Dan were a band and became more of a project. Both band went through triles amd errors to work their sound. Chicago was definitly rawer, edgyer and grittier. With a clear mixture pf Cream like psychadelic rock mixed with complex horn arrangement. Steely Dan had a closer DNA towards funk and pop, brought through a landscape of jazz, beat literature and urban flavours. Steely Dan is more a kin to Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind and Fire. Chicago was as raw and rocking as Deep Purple but had a jazz, classical, r'n'b, walk around. To Chicago ther was a fudation of orginized chaos, a septet, most clearly heard in the song "A Hit by Varese" on Chicago V. A song on the brink of chaos, dissonant, 'ugly', wild and yet ordered. With a wild drum groove. And the most underrated guitarist in rock music, Terry Kath. My vote is Chicago, even though i love Kid Carlmagne
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Mascodagama ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5111 |
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Yeah, not too tricky for me.
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20585 |
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Yikes
except in this poll, Chicago wipes SD with their first 7 albums (ok, 6 was poorer), especially when you know that CTA, s/t, 3 and VII were all double albums (and Carnegie a quadruple)... This alone gives Chicago 10 discs of great music???? something SD was never able to reach. and the first disc of VII is miles better than a CDr compilation of SD's best moments.
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 12809 |
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^well its not 10 discs of great music if one does not like them very much (no hate or anyting they're ok but not in my personal jazzrock-fusion top 100). SD all the way for me with their pretty much flawless 70's discography.
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Once again, love both but Steely Dan were soooo much more consistent.
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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Pretty much how I feel. I enjoy early Chicago but Steely Dan is one of my favorites.
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 7955 |
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Neither pique my interest . . .
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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digdug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4707 |
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really love both.... but have to go with
Steely Dan
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Prog On!
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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Another hopeless mismatch, I'm afraid.
It might be a fair fight if all Chicago was like their first five albums, and even then only if the whole album was like the best half of the album. Everything by the Dan from the debut through Aja was special. |
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