Marillion Marbles

I did a Neo Prog poll some time ago and included Marbles and Lazland suggested that this album was not in any way a Neo Prog album. I agreed with him but if it's not Neo what is it? On the site here we have the bands in sub-genres not albums and I feel that maybe Seasons End was Marillion's last Neo record.
I listened to it last night and to be honest before I spun it I was thinking Symphonic ala Spock's Beard and The Flower Kings but after the listen I was leaning more towards Eclectic. Just curious of opinions and comments.

Neo Prog all the way! It's the only Marillion album I own from the Hogarth era, although given the opportunity, I'd buy all of them at the right price. 

Awesoreno wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: According to RYM tagging it's progressive rock mixed with alternative rock, post-Britpop and pop rock That seems about right to me. So by that logic, Crossover.

I have always really liked 'Marbles'. 

It’s not Neo, but it IS overrated🤔😃

Xover IMO. When I compare Marillion (post Fish) with Neo Prog bands like IQ , Arena , Pendragon ,... I cant find a solid Neo Prog album from them. Marbles is a good album and perhaps their "Proggest" album after Fish era BUT is it a pure Neo Prog? , I really doubt about it.

It tends to be the Fish years that get hyped imo.

O666 wrote: Xover IMO. When I compare Marillion (post Fish) with Neo Prog bands like IQ , Arena , Pendragon ,... I cant find a solid Neo Prog album from them. Marbles is a good album and perhaps their "Proggest" album after Fish era BUT is it a pure Neo Prog? , I really doubt about it.

siLLy puPPy wrote: Mellotron Storm wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: Mellotron Storm wrote: Awesoreno wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: According to RYM tagging it's progressive rock mixed with alternative rock, post-Britpop and pop rock That seems about right to me. So by that logic, Crossover. Interesting and I did look up the RYM tags prior. So Marbles is Prog Rock yes but on this site we're more specific. Actually this site is more general. Multiple genre tagging is way more specific and i find RYM to be much more accurate at least for albums that have been voted on by a large number of individuals. It's not neo because neo has a specific definition and this album doesn't meet those definitions. Neo has a specific requirement for heavy use of keyboards and airy guitar techniques. People get too hung up over these things. It's still prog just not neo No sorry I'm just curious by our sub-genres here where they fit in. And I don't feel hung up at all because I'm so into this stuff it's the exact opposite. I agree that those albums would be crossover if we could tag individual albums.

Mellotron Storm wrote: richardh wrote: Neo Prog all day long. Seasons's End and Ever showed a different and evolving direction for Neo Prog generally and it continued. There is an argument that early neo is simply symph prog repackaged. With albums like the aforementioned ones, neo found its own voice. Don't deprive them of that! Stop confusing me.  Hey I always felt Season's End was different when compared to the rest of the Hogarth era because it was written with Fish before he was dumped I believe or at least with him in mind. So it's different but almost a stepping stone to what would follow.  And man this is where I get confused because Peter's voice in IQ will always make me think Neo even though they went all heavy like Pendragon. Okay Arena always had that heavy side no? So maybe your right Neo just evolved.