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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:33
I'm looking to place an order from Wayside in the next couple days, anyone know if I would like

French, Frith, Kaiser, Thompson - Invisible Means


edit: or this one?



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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:26
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:



I listened to "Learn to Talk" by Skeleton Crew for the first time in ages today. I bloody love that album.
it's fine
File:SkeletonCrew AlbumCover LearnTalk.jpg

Just listened to parts on youtube and it's f**king bril. The man made too much good music, how does he expect everyone to listen to everything if so much of it is good?
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Points: 18016 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 13:05
I think the presence of Frith, even if the other members were all unknowns, would make a band a RIO supergroup.
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Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:



I listened to "Learn to Talk" by Skeleton Crew for the first time in ages today. I bloody love that album.
it's fine
File:SkeletonCrew AlbumCover LearnTalk.jpg


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 19 2011 at 10:45
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 10:22
Indeed. RIO has always seemed like a proper musical family, with the same old faces (and a steady drip-feed of newer ones) coming together in all kinds of different permutations. RIO musicians just seem to be natural (or perhaps arguably ideologically-driven in some cases) collaborators, and it's one of the movement's key strengths, IMO.

I listened to "Learn to Talk" by Skeleton Crew for the first time in ages today. I bloody love that album.
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Every RIO group is a supergroup! LOL
Remember Massacre? The first line-up was: Fred Frith; Bill Laswell (bass); Fred Maher (drums). Then, in 1998, the new line-up included Charles Hayward (This Heat, Quiet Sun...)
It's hard to find a project of Frith which isn't a "RIO supergroup".
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2011 at 04:51
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

I didn't get any of his post-2000 stuff, anyone have anything to recommend?


His latest group project, Cosa Brava, is definitely well worth checking out.

From what I heard on Youtube, this is some of the more interesting Frith stuff I've heard! Plus it has Carla Khilstedt and Matthias Bossi from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, one of my all time favourite bands! And the harp girl from News From Babel! RIO supergroup much?
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

I didn't get any of his post-2000 stuff, anyone have anything to recommend?


His latest group project, Cosa Brava, is definitely well worth checking out.
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Originally posted by Polo Polo wrote:

His work with Naked City, Cosa Brava and the Cow was tremendous; I really despise his Derek Bailey-like thing going on his solo guitar performances though.

I actually rather love them! The two ends of the spectrum that he does are both rather tremendous. His composing is incredible mostly because he can make a dance like tune sound completely messed up. I love his improvising because of the things he constantly does with the guitar which are absolutely bonkers! Always very interesting to hear, and just as interesting to see!
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I actually don't own any solo Frith, which is surprising because he's my favourite guitarist
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

I didn't get any of his post-2000 stuff, anyone have anything to recommend?
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

I'm not sure, but I wonder if he hadn't replaced his guitars from decades to decades...


You're obviously not a guitarist Tongue


No, I'm a bass player - but, sometimes, I try to adapt some techniques of Frith on my instrument.

By the way, the movie Step Across the Border (1990) is TO BE SEEN, WATCHED AND STUDIED (but that's, like, just my opinion, man).

Yeah I know I MUST GET IT, do you know where can I buy it? Surprisingly it won best documentary in a bunch of festivals. Not only that it's Frith and Zorn and Kaiser and a behindload of other people but it's also supposedly actually a good film.

And I'm also a bassist and I've done a few of Frith's songs (Spring Any Day Now I've actually brought to a jazz ensemble, and they weren't very happy with it...). His bass playing shouldn't be overlooked, it is very percussive and precise.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 22:41
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.

Yeah, guitarist/bassist/violinist/mallet percussionist (at least some basic, he plays some on the Henry Cow DVD with the box set IIRC), vocalist, etc.  All-around talented fellow, I'd say.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 21:40
His recent solo stuff is very good.

Remember he's a bassist too, and a very good one at that.
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 20:20
I need more Frith.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 20:13
I still haven't heard that one, only Live, Love, Larf & Loaf.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 20:07
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

I've liked everything I've heard with Fred, really.  I know I'm not the only one here who knows French Frith Kaiser Thompson either, right Slarti?  Their music is really good. 

What's really funny is that Invisble Means came out on the Windham Hill label. LOL
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Points: 10189 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 19:18
His work with Naked City, Cosa Brava and the Cow was tremendous; I really despise his Derek Bailey-like thing going on his solo guitar performances though.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 19:02
I've liked everything I've heard with Fred, really.  I know I'm not the only one here who knows French Frith Kaiser Thompson either, right Slarti?  Their music is really good. 
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2011 at 18:41
Alls I have to say is check out the Fred Frith entry on this site and see who added a bunch of titles. Big smile

I generally prefer his 70's and 80's stuff to his more recent, but I have Eye To Ear 3 on order.

My favorites are Gravity, Speechless, Cheap At Half The Price, and The Technology Of Tears. 

The Skeleton Crew albums are excellent, too.  I got to see them live. Big smile


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