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Topic: Prog with Upright Bass
Posted: August 03 2009 at 11:14

...does it even exist?

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 12:40

In Jazz-Rock Fusion, yes.

On this album there's both electric bass and upright bass:

And it's on PA too!

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 12:49

harmonium.ro wrote:

In Jazz-Rock Fusion, yes.

On this album there's both electric bass and upright bass:

And it's on PA too!

thanks Alex

...I'm checking that out now

Edited by Captain Capricorn - August 03 2009 at 12:49

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 20:53

If you count the Decemberists as prog.....

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 20:57

zappaholic wrote:

If you count the Decemberists as prog.....

if they haven't convinced people by now...

anyway... to the OP. Pentangle and Danny Thompson. That is what you are looking for.

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 23:13

Area has some upright in some of their music, intertwined with everything else. They're a bit insane, but in the good way (at least IMO).

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Posted: August 03 2009 at 23:33

If you consider it Prog (it's in avant prog and they played the recent RIO fest in Carmeaux ), one of my favourites has it: Aranis.

Begnagrad also has it, I believe.

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 07:25

zappaholic wrote:

If you count the Decemberists as prog.....

I count them as prog - its only myself I don't count as a fan

...but thanks for the help zappaholic

micky wrote:

Pentangle and Danny Thompson. That is what you are looking for.

thanks micky ...looking into that now

SaltyJon wrote:

Area has some upright in some of their music, intertwined with everything else. They're a bit insane, but in the good way (at least IMO).

Area is one of my top tens, but they don't focus enough on the double bass for what I am looking for ...thanks though.

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If you consider it Prog (it's in avant prog and they played the recent RIO fest in Carmeaux ), one of my favourites has it: Aranis.

Begnagrad also has it, I believe.

I don't know much about either at the moment ...checking into them too

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 12:43

Some Zappa and Zorn is all I can think of right now.Of course Miles Davis as well LOL

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 14:29

Frogg Cafe and supposedly the new From.uz album

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 17:31

Pain of Salvations Be has a fair amount of upright bass as well as fretless and fretted six string bass guitar.

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 17:40

All i can think of:
Primus - Seas of Cheese, Mr Krinkle, Over the Falls
Return to Forever - Some song off "Romantic Warrior"

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 17:45

Harry Miller's work with King Crimson on Islands, not their best album, but it has it's moments. Miller also appears with members of Soft Machine and King Crimson on the album Septober Energy by Centipede, a European avant jazz fusion band here on PA.

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Posted: August 04 2009 at 22:45

mrcozdude wrote:

Some Zappa and Zorn is all I can think of right now.Of course Miles Davis as well LOL

Yeah, LIttle Umbrellas is the first that comes to mind. Damn I love that tune.

Also seconding the Five Peace Band. Christian McBride is a wizard on the upright (and electric for that matter). I had the pleasure of seeing them during their last show in Burlington, they really tore the house down. In fact during the song The Disguise (i think its called that), McBride had arguably the best solo of the night. Blew everybody's mind, he got more applause for that bit than Corea or McLaughlin got all night.

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Posted: August 05 2009 at 01:51

fusion bass player Eberhard Weber, who had his own band Colours but also played with the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble and appears on many European fusion albums, plays an upright bass. here a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtN2r7Xk38
Reinhard Karwatky of Krautrock band Dzyan played an upright bass, and they are not exactly fusion (though there are some fusion elements in their music).
Hans Rettenbacher of Anima played an upright bass too. their music was very free, especially on their "Live" album (which was recorded in studio, but live with no overdubs).
Stanley Clarke plays upright bass too from time to time

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Posted: August 05 2009 at 09:53

mrcozdude wrote:

Some Zappa and Zorn is all I can think of right now.Of course Miles Davis as well LOL

yeah ...I've digested all three of those guys at this point

...great suggestions though!

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Frogg Cafe and supposedly the new From.uz album

Frogg Cafe isn't really my cup of tea ...not too familiar with Fromuz though ...I'll check them out today

sleeper wrote:

Pain of Salvations Be has a fair amount of upright bass as well as fretless and fretted six string bass guitar.

That's one band I've never explored ...any suggestion as to where to start?

Abstrakt wrote:

All i can think of:
Primus - Seas of Cheese, Mr Krinkle, Over the Falls
Return to Forever - Some song off "Romantic Warrior"

All great stuff! I wonder if Les has any albums out in which he only uses a double bass...

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Harry Miller's work with King Crimson on Islands, not their best album, but it has it's moments. Miller also appears with members of Soft Machine and King Crimson on the album Septober Energy by Centipede, a European avant jazz fusion band here on PA.

I forgot about the upright on Islands ...thanks John

I don't know Centipede, but I'll be sure to explore them today.

Speesh wrote:

Also seconding the Five Peace Band. Christian McBride is a wizard on the upright (and electric for that matter). I had the pleasure of seeing them during their last show in Burlington, they really tore the house down. In fact during the song The Disguise (i think its called that), McBride had arguably the best solo of the night. Blew everybody's mind, he got more applause for that bit than Corea or McLaughlin got all night.

...any McBride suggestions?

BaldJean wrote:

fusion bass player Eberhard Weber, who had his own band Colours but also played with the United Jazz and Rock Ensemble and appears on many European fusion albums, plays an upright bass. here a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GtN2r7Xk38
Reinhard Karwatky of Krautrock band Dzyan played an upright bass, and they are not exactly fusion (though there are some fusion elements in their music).
Hans Rettenbacher of Anima played an upright bass too. their music was very free, especially on their "Live" album (which was recorded in studio, but live with no overdubs).
Stanley Clarke plays upright bass too from time to time

...thanks BaldJean ...I'll dive into Anima & UJ&RE today as well

Edited by Captain Capricorn - August 05 2009 at 10:04

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Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:19

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Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:29

~~Hugh Hopper~~ Roy Babbington plays a lot of double bass on Fourth - Soft Machine.

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Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:38

There is double bass, but it's not Hugh Hopper, it's Roy Babbington, from Nucleus.

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Posted: August 06 2009 at 22:58

...any McBride suggestions?

I've just started looking into his stuff myself, so i'm no authority. All I have so far is Live at Tonic. Its very fusion-y, but with more of a jam band type feel than what one might expect from McBride. Check it out if you're into that kind of thing. The first set is regular fusion songs, during the second there's more improv, and the third is all out jamming, with some unexpected guests. Its nothing ground-breaking but its really fun music played by very solid musicians. I play along with this one a lot, when there's no other people around to jam with Tongue

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I know he's played with Brian Blade elsewhere in Joshua Redman's band I believe, but I don't know anything about Redman right now. With a rhythm section like that though its gotta be good.