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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: August 13 2005 at 19:58 |
The problem of Asia is that their stuff is not bad, only weak, but for that level of artists weak is bad. If any 80's POP band would have done this stuff everybody would consider it good, but for this guys is simply not enough.
 So now, I can't imagine these guys being bad. You have been owned. |
- GTR: Hackett & Howe together, any prog' fan dream, but it was a nightmare
- Three: Keith Emerson, Robert Berry and Carl Palmer, the three are great musicians but the album is terrible.
- Yes Union: Anderson, Wakeman, Bruford, Howe, Squire, Rabin, Kaye and White, almost all trascendental Yes members (except Moraz) together, but the result couldn't be worst.
- Kino: Arena, It Bites, Marillion and Porcupine Tree members together, but again not the expected.
So, Asia is not the only case in which supergroups don't work.
Iván
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goose
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 19:38 |
At least they don't put out naff music at the same time though eh? 
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 19:25 |
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Whats wrong with making obscene money.....that's the Tory party for you.
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Wormboy
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 19:04 |
Yes, I'm sorry. Asia was indeed bad.
A great lineup does not guarantee a great album. Every guy you
name was past his prime when Asia got together. In fact, none of
them was involved in a highly rated prog album near the Asia
period. By all accounts, it was a pop effort banking on their big
names to make some money.
A better name would have been "Alimony" 
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 13:38 |
That's what happens when four musicians think they're so great anything the do will be amazing.
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salmacis
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 08:31 |
I love the albums Asia did- there, I've said it! I see nothing wrong with the music they did- if they had made a prog album, they'd have been pilloried by the music press for being 'old hat' and 'breaking no new ground'. However, by doing the AOR they did, they gained a lot of criticism for doing non prog material from fans. So, they couldn't really win!
I am not so worried about what they didn't do and choose to enjoy the band for what they were- if I want a prog album from these guys, I'll play Yes, ELP, King Crimson or any of the other bands they were in.
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valravennz
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:26 |
Well I like Asia and own several of their albums. I would not say they are progressive rock - more like 80's power rock with a bend towards commercialism in a very big way.
My favourite album is "Aqua" - easy listening with some v nice guitar work from Steve Howe. Not as hateful as everyone assumes, but each to our own ...
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Intruder
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 05:38 |
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Well, mate, go nab an Asia LP out of the discount bins at your local ASDA and judge for yourself. Shhheeeeeesh, what a friggin' post!
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 00:41 |
I dug the first Asia. 
Too bad about GTR. Now that's something to be pissed about.
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greenback
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 00:06 |
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HEY! WAKE UP! ASIA RULE!
Edited by greenback
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Arsillus
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 18:30 |
Here's your problem on why you can't understand why Asia sucks:
You haven't heard them! 
Take a listen....
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 18:26 |
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It's good old fashioned power pop...by old farts who wanted more money. The first three i like...after that they kinda sucked..........but then don't most groups go way past their sell date....the stones are a prime example.
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richardh
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 16:32 |
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Asia set out with the intention of not doing prog (or anything particularly interesting for that matter).They were an ok eighties band..if your idea of 'ok' is Reo Speedwagon.
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Tiresias
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 16:21 |
Let's hear what you've said:
I Havent Heard Them
This is essential to making your point. Asia make pop music with a prog rock line up because prog was dormant at the time.
They suck progwise. The line up doesn't mean anything if they only focus on sh*tty music.
If you blend tuna, milk, pickles and cheez whiz, and spread it on Pop-Tarts, its gonna taste sh*tty.
If you blend Crimson, Yes and ELP alumni, but make them play pop, they are gonna suck
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BaldJean
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 15:50 |
Progbear wrote:
Well, you should really hear them to understand. Having all these amazing musicians making such banal music, it’s rather akin to using a Fabergé egg as a doostop.
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I like that comparison 
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fabiog
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 15:46 |
It isn´t fair compare Asia with prog bands like Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, ... Because Asia isn´t a "traditional" prog band, however was made with finest prog musicians...
Listen Asia Anthologia and you can do your own opinion...
I like Asia and John Wetton´s songs very much!
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Progger
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 15:05 |
Under wrote:
I only know the song "Heat of the Moment".
Well that says it all.
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'Only Time Will Tell' & 'Soul Survivor' were hits on both sides of the Atlantic as well! Must have heard them on the radio?
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 15:02 |
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Asia was very good.....at pop.
They unfortuantely did not make prog, I don't blame them it was 1982.
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Under
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 15:00 |
I only know the song "Heat of the Moment".
Well that says it all.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 12 2005 at 14:45 |
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Great band in my opinion. Problem in these parts is, they didn't make much at all in the way of prog.
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