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Evolver
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 13:57 |
dr wu23 wrote:
I don't have a problem with ITWOP being a so-called 'rip off' of Court......no doubt they were still in that type of writing style and some of those might have even been written in raw form while they were still touring with Court. Personally I like the album quite a bit and wish they had done another one in a similar style.Lizard has some similar qualities/structure with the first two but with Islands Fripp broke into new areas. |
It's not a rip off. However, "Pictures Of A City" is far too close in structure to "21st Century Schizoid Man", and "In The Wake Of Poseidon" is a lesser copy of "Epitaph". To me is sounds like a band desperate to fill out the time on the second album, while the group itself was coming apart. That could be why those two tracks do not come off as original compositions. The rest of the album was completely fresh.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 13:08 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 12:41 |
I don't have a problem with ITWOP being a so-called 'rip off' of Court......no doubt they were still in that type of writing style and some of those might have even been written in raw form while they were still touring with Court. Personally I like the album quite a bit and wish they had done another one in a similar style. Lizard has some similar qualities/structure with the first two but with Islands Fripp broke into new areas.
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Blacksword
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 12:39 |
Love em all, but I voted for Islands.
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sublime220
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Posted: October 08 2015 at 09:31 |
It may have been a complete copy of the first album but ITW did a perfect complete copy of the first album.
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 22:20 |
Not really a fan of any of this... at least not as a whole, though they all have their moments. I guess in the end it's a match between the song "In the Wake of Poseidon" and the duo "Prince Rupert Awakes / Bolero"... which is a rather difficult choice for me, since I love both.
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HackettFan
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 19:47 |
My vote is for Lizard. I really dislike Islands. I need to listen to In the Wake of Poseidon just because it's been so long since I have.
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Michael678
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 17:35 |
in order from good to great:
3. Islands 2. Lizard 1. In the Wake of Poseidon
...yeah, it's a Court ripoff, but whatever!!
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LearsFool
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 17:23 |
Lizard
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 16:07 |
Can't choose between the last two
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infocat
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 15:56 |
Islands; such a unique and beautiful album.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 15:02 |
Lizard
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sleeper
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 14:05 |
someone_else wrote:
Islands > In the Wake of Poseidon > Lizards |
Same here.
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dr wu23
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 13:40 |
Hmmm....I'm a fan of all of those and KC in general. I'll go with the underdog here and cast my vote for Poseidon....the title track is one of my favorite mellotron laced KC epics with great lyrics by Sinfield.
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Svetonio
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 12:40 |
Islands this time.
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Sagichim
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 11:54 |
As a whole I prefer Islands but the song Lizard is one of Crimson's finest moments.
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Progosopher
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 11:44 |
1. Lizard 2. ITWOP 3. Islands has its moments but it is one of my least favorite Crim albums.
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Rednight
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 10:25 |
What a righteous matchup of albums. It's Lizard, though, as it's got a little something for everyone - just look at the album's artwork!
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 09:50 |
Eye lands. All three are excellent.
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someone_else
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Posted: October 07 2015 at 09:35 |
Islands > In the Wake of Poseidon > Lizards
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