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Poll Question: If you were ordered to by a draft
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1 [2.78%]
4 [11.11%]
7 [19.44%]
13 [36.11%]
2 [5.56%]
9 [25.00%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2016 at 12:21
I never served a day of my life in the military...damn straight I would fight for my country.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2016 at 11:53
I served 12 years in the U.S. Marine Corps so although I never served in combat I guess I have to say 'yes' and ignore the modifiers added to that poll option.

That said I understand and respect anyone who chooses not to serve or who finds moral, religious or other objecion, as long as they afford the same respect of choice for those who did or do serve.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2016 at 02:58
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

well, as an arthritic 53 year old, that rules out the Stupid Boy for you, Jim. Who would you be?


However much I'd like to reply Sgt Wilson, I'm more like Pte Godfrey (at least I'm a trained first-aider)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 12:24
I can't even enlist because I'm on antidepressants, so I don't have much to worry about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 11:44
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Good poll, good question & not an easy one...

However I'd like to say "yes, I'd sign up to defend my country in the case of a direct threat to the UK", my probable reaction, given my pacifist cowardly nature?



Luckily, being an arthritic 53 year old, the situation is unlikely to occur, unless of course:



well, as an arthritic 53 year old, that rules out the Stupid Boy for you, Jim. Who would you be?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 11:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 10:07
Good poll, good question & not an easy one...

However I'd like to say "yes, I'd sign up to defend my country in the case of a direct threat to the UK", my probable reaction, given my pacifist cowardly nature?



Luckily, being an arthritic 53 year old, the situation is unlikely to occur, unless of course:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 06:53
The only way to fight for my country, at this point, would be to fight against its government


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 04:25
My country slaves me for all I'm worth, I pay taxes, I am part of the 'workforce' and I get peanuts for all the stress and strain - why would I stake my life on the line for a pack of a-holes ?? They couldn't give two sh*ts about me..........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 04:03
I have a lot of trouble with the poll question "No, I'm a coward", as if pacifism is only for the skittish. I make no claims of bravery, but many, many years ago, in a flash of a moment without even thinking, I jumped in on a group of older teenagers who 'ganged up' on one frightened homeless street kid. I drove them off by swinging a crutch as I had just injured my ankle a few days earlier. A few years later, I adopted the street youth and he remains a loyal son.
There are many stories like this from so called cowards. It's not a matter of fear to resist fighting, but principle. America has involved itself with few just wars since WWII, and that will always play a significant roll in the "will you fight for your country" question for Americans.
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2016 at 03:53
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Ermm American's seem pretty good at killing each other without anyone needing to invade them, if we wait a few years we'll be able to walk in and take the colonies back without firing a single shot.
True to an extent, but you'll never get past the group that remains in Bronx, NY.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 23:29
Ermm American's seem pretty good at killing each other without anyone needing to invade them, if we wait a few years we'll be able to walk in and take the colonies back without firing a single shot.
What?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 21:57
Overseas. No.  If there were an invasion of the US then yes, I would defend my country.  I suspect at my size and speed I would make pretty easy target practice for any invaders but I would do what I could.  Sadly the best they would get out of me is a paper pusher who would be discharged with a nasty paper cut.  I wouldn't be much good as a Red Dawn type. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:55
Pacifistic loser.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:42
In the 2010's and take a bullet in the back from my brothers in arms, no thanks.


Normandie in June 1944 par contre...you bet!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:35
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Voted "No" because as far as I can see the governments* are still blackmailed over paedophilia.
I'd fight a war to get rid of the Monarchy and bring over half the government to trial, but that's about it.
Oh and remember the Serbian conflict yours and our troops were involved in?
You must be so pleased to see Slobodan Milosevic being found innocent (after dying in prison).
The amount of money, resources and it wasn't as big as Iraq or Afghanistan!
If Milosevic is found innocent, you are aware one of these days (Probably a few decades or even a Century away) Osama will be absolved of involvement with 9/11?
How inconvenient would that be?
I used to say I support the people but not the institutions of this country. But these days, I don't even support them!
So I'll take imprisonment over conscription, and luckily my beard will make my incarcerated conversion to "Islam" that much easier on my arse!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:29
I wouldn't fight for France, Paris can burn. I just hope the invaders would wait for the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Italians, etc... to get their ancient artworks given bak before bombing the Louvre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:01
One of the options that was available to conscientious objectors was exemption only from combatant duties, which included many (many) roles within the armed services such as stores and materiel movements, pay-role, airfield ground-crew and medics, and of course bomb disposal (over 400 Brit conscientious objectors volunteered for bomb disposal during WW2 and no one would question their bravery or call them cowards). 

Given that the armed services are renowned for forcing square pegs into round holes I suspect that despite having been trained as an apprentice in all aspects of aircraft and airfield electronics since I left school at 16, if I were to be conscripted then airfield ground-crew would be the last place they'd actually put me.


Edited by Dean - August 18 2016 at 11:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 11:00
I don't know, honestly. I don't even really know my own stance on war for certain, much less the specific ones for which I'd be drafted.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2016 at 10:18
I'm a diabetic so they wouldn't let me in. But even if they would I wouldn't. The USA's military activity of the past 50 years has been questionable to say the least, and a military draft is an absolutely disgusting concept - I could never support a country that had an active one in place.
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