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Mascodagama
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 12:18 |
U2 was OK but well overhyped in the eighties and has been unmitigated sh*te for the last 27 years. Bono is a w**ker of the very highest denomination.
Other than that, all good.
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AZF
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Location: Wirral
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 08:26 |
"Ah, but being as big as we are, we couldn't possibly be anything but overrated to some!".
No, but you really are sh*t. I will compare you to The Beatles, but only in the sense that both bands are getting by with a little help from government departments. U2 shut the gate and sealed it behind them, The Beatles were more cruel and made it look like anyone could do it. "Vertigo","Beautiful Day" the one they did for that Batman film are the only three songs of theirs I could stand. "The Joshua Tree" was massive when I was in school and I luckily didn't grow into it!
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 08:08 |
Kiss were fun, and not really supposed to be anything else. For that reason I respect them more than U2.
U2 were good up to and includng The Unforgettable fire, after that they became...well...completely forgettable. IMO. The Joshua Tree, with the excpetion of a couple of songs was a snooze fest. Rattle & Hum was wall to wall drek.
I saw them on the Achtung/Zooropa tour back in 93. Nice looking show, but the worst live sound I've ever heard at a gig, and peppered with preachy pretentiousness.
Edited by Blacksword - April 01 2017 at 08:08
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Tom Ozric
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Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 07:31 |
Kiss were acceptable up until Dynasty. Then the became Roller-Rink bubblegum (shows my age, eh ?) U2 never had it. It even took Eno some hard work to polish a smelly turd........
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micky
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 07:09 |
Kiss are no different than .. well.. pretty much all but the very best... after a certain time the creativity and fire dries up and they become parodies of what made them great. It happened to KISS.. it happened to a great many artists musically. Very few escape that....
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 07:03 |
Funny - Kiss were such an inspiration to many back in the day, nowadays, a bunch of egomaniac w**kers........... And to think that some of my idols looked up to Kiss as idols .....?? U2 don't even enter the picture. They started out rather pox, and disappeared up their asses. No wonder I can't see them anymore.......
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micky
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 06:56 |
oh no... KISS overrated.... who the f**k thinks that other than kiddies who weren't around and have no clue what they are talking about.
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CPicard
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 05:57 |
I like some of their songs ("New Year's Day", "Sunday Bloody Sunday" or "Numb"), but I won't call them Rock Gods. On the other hand, to call them "overrated"... I would keep this adjective for Kiss, the Sex Pistols or Muse (nope, no trolling here).
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micky
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 05:16 |
Prog Sothoth wrote:
I wouldn't say they're overrated, considering that opinions on their legacy have become more polarizing through the years. |
some fans never forgave them for going 'euro' in the 90's and not mining the Joshua Tree goldmine ad nauseum I think the key to their polarization however is non-musical.....most never liked what the politically and socially pompous sanctimonious t**t that Bono became
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Sean Trane
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Joined: April 29 2004
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Posted: April 01 2017 at 02:06 |
From Unforgettable Fire until Achtung Baby, they were probably the greatest (80's) band, but they f**ked up with Zooropa (ok, kudos for going experimental, but it stunk) and the Passenger (with Eno) thing ... and they've never been the same since: Pop was still acceptable (but no more), and I totally can't get in the rest of their albums... I'm not even trying to keep up with their stuff anymore. As for their early stuff, I wasn't really into it... I only really appreciate NYD
Toooooo bad that they're only the shadow of their former selves... Today, they seem to live on their former Joshua glories.
Edited by Sean Trane - April 01 2017 at 02:09
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Prog Sothoth
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 20:30 |
"Out of control", "Gloria" and "New Year's Day" are great anthemic songs. It was only after Achtung Baby that I lost interest, although it's tough listening to The Joshua Tree without skipping the first three songs due to radio overplay. A couple of duds on that one too (as on most of their good albums...later releases seem full of them).
I wouldn't say they're overrated, considering that opinions on their legacy have become more polarizing through the years.
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micky
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 18:32 |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 18:28 |
Have there been all star mashups of U2 songs yet?
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 18:25 |
Hmmmm, sounds like someone's got stocks in Bono's amber lense glasses or The Edge's beanies, Micky!
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micky
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 18:14 |
silly question.... typical poll PA's poll results... what planet you all are from. I have no clue
of course they are gods.. legends... whatever one calls them
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 18:00 |
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Overrated from the point of view of us Prog-snobs, |
I don't know, Dream Theater worship them?? |
I suppose to mainstream music listeners/FM radio listeners, a band like U2 are hugely exciting. But we're kind of spoiled listening to prog...we get plenty of great playing, adventurous and ambitious arrangements, etc, so U2 (who, even though I don't persoanlly like them, are hardly the worst of bands out there) don't sound nearly as interesting or impressive?
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Quinino
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Location: Portugal
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 17:38 |
Dean wrote:
first two albums great, third good but after that I'd rather fill my ears with cold custard than endure a single note. |
For once I totally agree with you, too
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 16:12 |
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Overrated from the point of view of us Prog-snobs, |
I don't know, Dream Theater worship them??
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 16:04 |
Great live band, consistent but progressive, frequently imitated.
Rock gods.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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doompaul
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Location: boise id
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Posted: March 31 2017 at 15:04 |
Can't stand 'em.
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