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probrably both.
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

I'll give my usual answer: Barbara Dennerlein. Keith Emerson was a big fan of her, by the way
 

I love Barbara.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote octopus-4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2019 at 09:04
This debate goes on since the '70s. My vote goes to Keith. Less albums but more consistent. I love Wakeman but his huge solo newage production is quite boring. Despite masterpieces like The Wives, No Earthly connection, Criminal Records, Journey (and also 1984, Cost Of Living and few others) if you land on the wrong album you risk to give them up. 
It doesn't happen with Keith, neither with things like Are You Ready Eddie? 
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Both great. Emerson by a whisker...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stewe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2019 at 07:49
Emerson impresses me more with technicality and dexterity, but Wakeman's diverse keyboards, especially on Fragile and CTTE are among the most magical I can imagine.


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Great musicians. Wakeman is more prolific, but Emerson reached a higher peak...so Emo it is.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaldJean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 02 2019 at 04:20
I'll give my usual answer: Barbara Dennerlein. Keith Emerson was a big fan of her, by the way


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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Love 'em both but I voted for Keith principally for this reason:

Wakeman is a keyboard player who composes
Emerson was a composer who played keyboards


Then why did Wakeman compose so much more music than Emerson?
And why did Emerson rely even more on doing covers?


Six Wives, King Arthur and No Earthly Connection aside, quantity clearly doesn't trump quality. From around '86 Wakeman was churning out 5 or 6 albums a year of fondant new age drivel. Maybe he had more ex wives to satisfy than Keith? Wink I'm not even convinced Keith has done more covers: (OK they've both done Christmas albums certainly) but Rick also has an entire album of Beatles covers (Tribute to the Beatles), an entire album of traditional hymns (Morning Has Broken), an entire album of classical adaptations (Classical Variations), a entire album of traditional christian music (Always With You) and an entire album of cover versions (Piano Portraits) there may be more but I ran out of patience looking for them, you might have better luck:

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Wakeman ‘BBQ’d’ a Mellotron, Keith trashed his Hammond. Fair game
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2019 at 21:42
Originally posted by Fischman Fischman wrote:

interesting thought I hadn't considered at first.

I voted Emerson, based on his work with ELP. 

But when I think about solo work, I prefer Wakeman.

So when I consider both careers in total, it's pretty much a toss up.  


Actually, I prefer Wakeman's solo output over ELP's.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Love 'em both but I voted for Keith principally for this reason:

Wakeman is a keyboard player who composes
Emerson was a composer who played keyboards


Then why did Wakeman compose so much more music than Emerson?
And why did Emerson rely even more on doing covers?
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Both are excellent. Wakeman has a much larger (yuge) catalog of original recordings, and although not all of it is great, he has recorded a much larger quantity of high-quality music. Emerson seems to have stopped writing and recording on a number of occasions, and his proudest symphony was on Works I.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote maryes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2019 at 17:25
Very difficult choice, two virtuous musicians but... Wakeman wins !!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fischman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2019 at 12:45
interesting thought I hadn't considered at first.

I voted Emerson, based on his work with ELP. 

But when I think about solo work, I prefer Wakeman.

So when I consider both careers in total, it's pretty much a toss up.  
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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At this point, I would say that KE is probably the more important of the two ... RW was in YES, and even he admits that too much of the music was filler and not that big a deal and that even things like TFTO were boring and whatever ... well, you and I know that TARKUS on the hands of Rachel Flowers, and several other pieces on her piano, are without a doubt some of the finest piano/organ concerts done in all of the 20th century, and since RW is not a great musician to see what has been done with KE's material, and show us that his compositional skills are more important than the 68 instruments he uses for one riff each!

As much as I like RW, and his playing is excellent, and probably more on par with classical musicians, in the end, his lack of respect, even in humor, for a lot of his work in that band, simply makes me think that he was there more for the "filler" than he was for the music, and of course,  he left and did not help establish even further and better that group's tradition. KE, at the very least, continued creating new material, and did not waver in his compositional skills ... the main difference being that one was being a serious musician and the other was just being a dressed up clown in the middle of so many keyboards, that made things look impressive ... today what he did can be done with 2 keyboards, probably one! With Keith's material in Rachel's hands, I see a lot more than just some small bit and piece supposedly about something or other ... listen to that piano, and you can't help think ... that is a massive piece of music! 

While I like RW's work in YES, I really can not say the same thing about him!
 

Not sure what you have against Rick. He did return to the band. The new material on Keys To Ascension is some of the band's best, IMO — and better than anything since. They also did royally burn his son, Oliver. Fly From Here sucks, except for the track he's on.
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I don't have a clear preference for one over the other so I voted for "Both Equally".
 
 
 
 
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I prefer Wakeman's output.
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Hi,

At this point, I would say that KE is probably the more important of the two ... RW was in YES, and even he admits that too much of the music was filler and not that big a deal and that even things like TFTO were boring and whatever ... well, you and I know that TARKUS on the hands of Rachel Flowers, and several other pieces on her piano, are without a doubt some of the finest piano/organ concerts done in all of the 20th century, and since RW is not a great musician to see what has been done with KE's material, and show us that his compositional skills are more important than the 68 instruments he uses for one riff each!

As much as I like RW, and his playing is excellent, and probably more on par with classical musicians, in the end, his lack of respect, even in humor, for a lot of his work in that band, simply makes me think that he was there more for the "filler" than he was for the music, and of course,  he left and did not help establish even further and better that group's tradition. KE, at the very least, continued creating new material, and did not waver in his compositional skills ... the main difference being that one was being a serious musician and the other was just being a dressed up clown in the middle of so many keyboards, that made things look impressive ... today what he did can be done with 2 keyboards, probably one! With Keith's material in Rachel's hands, I see a lot more than just some small bit and piece supposedly about something or other ... listen to that piano, and you can't help think ... that is a massive piece of music! 

While I like RW's work in YES, I really can not say the same thing about him!


Edited by moshkito - April 01 2019 at 07:41
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I'm much more of a Yes fan than an ELP fan but after seeing both live I would have to give the edge to Emerson. 
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