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Poll Question: Which is your favourite Renaissance album?
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I never expected the Camera Camera album to pick up as many as four votes (and maybe more) in this poll, so I guess now's as good a time as any to post the videos from the album. Smile
 
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1. Camera Camera
 
 
2. Faeries (Living at the Bottom of the Garden)
 
 
3. Remember
 
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4. Bonjour Swansong (not included in the British 1981 release)
 
 
5. Tyrant-Tula
 
 
 
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Camera Camera is one of a kind. There's no other album like it. OK, it's a bit inconsistent, but it is sharp and original and has several highlights (Tyrant Tula probably the highest). And Annie shows more variety than anywhere else.


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^ Thanks! Thumbs Up I've never seen that performance before.
 
I'll have an Annie Haslam tribute thread coming up soon. Wink
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here is a more recent one

to help Annie out with the coda, Mark Lambert has been playing a sizzling lead guitar




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^ I remember buying the Camera Camera album when it first came out, expecting another classic Renaissance album, but I was so disappointed, I took it back to the record store for a refund. It's time to give the album another listen now from a fresh perspective, nearly 40 years on. Smile
 
This may well be the last Live performance of Ashes Are Burning at the Union Chapel, London, in 2015.
 
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I would place Camera Camera second in the poll behind Grandine.  More than credible update to their sound at the time
 
They are two Renaissance albums I definitely need to check out after seeing the results from this poll.

I think Grandine is a slam dunk for you.  Several songs are in the classic Renaissance tradition while a few, the title cut in particular, offer something new yet familiar.  I still don't place it on the level of the 1970s classics but it's probably as good as we will get

Re Camera Camera, it helps to approach it without expecting a rehash of the 1970s glories, though 2 of the tracks are truly every bit as good.  I think the album deserved better than the thrashing it got in the press, though in Ottawa where I lived at the time it was fully embraced by the local FM station and I converted several classmates at college to the group, culminating in a packed concert at a local club.  It was 1982 and people weren't clamoring for prog rock, even those who liked it a few years earlier.  We appreciated that the band was still making good music in the new environment, but we did appreciate the Ashes are Burning encore!  Of course, some of my mates were converted because of Annie Big smile

Shame they didn't have a hit like Yes did around that time or they may have been able to stick around.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I would place Camera Camera second in the poll behind Grandine.  More than credible update to their sound at the time
 
They are two Renaissance albums I definitely need to check out after seeing the results from this poll.
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I would place Camera Camera second in the poll behind Grandine.  More than credible update to their sound at the time
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Open your ears, folks - Camera Camera is a wonderfully sculpted Prog-Rock album of its time. The sounds may not be ‘70’s (duh) but what a wonderful album. Seems to me, that out of all the ‘major players’ of the era, Renaissance fared above average for sure. Neo-Prog before Neo-Prog was born.

 
Thanks. I'll give Camera Camera another listen to see whether it's really a professional Hasselblad camera amongst prog albums, or whether it's just a budget-priced Polaroid Instamatic camera. Smile
Sorry to disagree, but in frontoif the electro-pop of Camera Camera I prefer keeping my ears closed.
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How about an Abacab vs. Camera Camera poll ??
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Open your ears, folks - Camera Camera is a wonderfully sculpted Prog-Rock album of its time. The sounds may not be ‘70’s (duh) but what a wonderful album. Seems to me, that out of all the ‘major players’ of the era, Renaissance fared above average for sure. Neo-Prog before Neo-Prog was born.

 
Thanks. I'll give Camera Camera another listen to see whether it's really a professional Hasselblad camera amongst prog albums, or whether it's just a budget-priced Polaroid Instamatic camera. Smile
Sorry to disagree, but in frontoif the electro-pop of Camera Camera I prefer keeping my ears closed.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Open your ears, folks - Camera Camera is a wonderfully sculpted Prog-Rock album of its time. The sounds may not be ‘70’s (duh) but what a wonderful album. Seems to me, that out of all the ‘major players’ of the era, Renaissance fared above average for sure. Neo-Prog before Neo-Prog was born.
 
Thanks. I'll give Camera Camera another listen to see whether it's really a professional Hasselblad camera amongst prog albums, or whether it's just a budget-priced Polaroid Instamatic camera. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Tom Ozric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2020 at 02:29
Open your ears, folks - Camera Camera is a wonderfully sculpted Prog-Rock album of its time. The sounds may not be ‘70’s (duh) but what a wonderful album. Seems to me, that out of all the ‘major players’ of the era, Renaissance fared above average for sure. Neo-Prog before Neo-Prog was born.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2020 at 01:55
^ Surprisingly, Camera Camera has already picked up a couple of votes, but then again, these polls always spring a few surprises. After all, someone who wishes to remain anonymous once voted for Calling All Stations as the best ever Genesis album. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote iluvmarillion Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2020 at 01:09
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Forget the first two in the list.
Yes, I'd rather forget the first two albums in the list too. Smile

I'm the same. The first two are terrible. I don't know what people find in Camera Camera. Timeline is even worse.

The rest are listenable though not wonderful compared to their 70's stuff. 
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GRandine il Vento. Fantastic album.
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I can't find "Somewhere West of Here" on YouTube, but I did find this Renaissance classic, sung by Stephanie Adlington.
 


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ It looks like Grandine il Vento is well-worth a listen, considering it's already picked up five votes in the first few hours.
 
I'm not a fan of the 1980's Camera Camera or Time-Line though. I'd much rather listen to the 1990's version of Renaissance with Michael Dunford and Stephanie Adlington. Smile

The song "Somewhere West of Here" which closes "The Other Woman" is absolutely brilliant.  It could have been a song by ILLUSION with Jane Relf singing
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Psychedelic Paul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2020 at 14:57
^ It looks like Grandine il Vento is well-worth a listen, considering it's already picked up five votes in the first few hours.
 
I'm not a fan of the 1980's Camera Camera or Time-Line though. I'd much rather listen to the 1990's version of Renaissance with Michael Dunford and Stephanie Adlington. Smile


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I like Camera Camera but these days I go with "Grandine.." more often than not

I actually prefer "The Other Woman" to "tuscany". 
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