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Poll Question: Does Hip Hop hold potential as an art form?
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Points: 20629 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2005 at 04:45

Well French rap such as MC Solaar , Manau have intelligent texts , not aggressive music (sometimes actually very good) and are definitely an artistic form of expression!

I think that Eminem would have better consideration had he non-mysoginic texts, because from what I heard (not much I must agree) it does not sound half-bad!

I actually loved Run DMC/Aerosmith collasboration back in the mid-80's. NWA (Niggers With Attitude - hated that names since that attitude is half their problems) had political reasons but on the artistic side.... The offshoots from them are better!

I also rememcer Ice Cube  being intelligent in his movie roles in Ken Singleton's movie (Boyz'n The Hood and so)



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Points: 1230 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2005 at 14:20

Anyone who honestly thinks that hip hop has no potential to become art obviously hasnt heard any hip hop besides 50 cent and lloyd banks.. there's more to the genre than whats played on MTV!! My vote is yes of course, theres many great rappers who are progressing the genre and are undoubtedly making art. 

A tribe called quest, KMD, Madvillian, mf doom, people under the stairs, prefuse 73 are all great examples of art in hip hop.

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Points: 5187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2005 at 08:12
Hip Hop is an art form.
Why wouldnt it be?Confused
The best of any musical genre is art,the problem is that most of it is just scribbles..LOL



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Originally posted by Pale Fire Pale Fire wrote:

Needs more intelligence, Prefuse is a good example. Another good example (IMO) is The Roots, they play all their own instruments, which is big time respect for me, and who could forget the latest release from OutKast. Andre 3000 is about as musically savvy as anyone out there. Additionally, they just have a more intelligent sound than more popular hip-hoppery such as 50 cent and Eminem (even though he is funny as hell, and tends to be more emotionally involved with his music)

edit: as much as I don't want to say anything....I think the poll question is a bit unfair. I think it is already a legitimate art form, whether or not you enjoy listening to hip-hop seems to be another story.


Hear, hear. You could almost say Andre 3000 is the Frank Zappa of hip-hop. The Roots are ok too.
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Points: 7136 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2005 at 08:05
A definite yes from me, although the examples which cross over into the mainstream are rarely of any great value. The problem is that the music industry promotes the guns in the ghetto culture, which sells in huge quantities to white middle class teenagers (not exclusively of course), although by and large they're not the ones who wind up shot or in prison.
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Points: 352 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2005 at 01:18

Originally posted by mwb498 mwb498 wrote:

After you post your choice (if you should be so inclined), please check out prefuse 73.  I believe that he is taking hip hop to a similar level as progressive rock.

hip-hop... progressive rock?

I can't blend these two thoughts into one. And at the moment a lot of thoughts can be blended into one.
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I can see your point and I definately agree with you regarding the present legitimacy of hip-hop.  My intention was actually to bias the question in favor of hip-hop without completely underrating an opposing opinion.
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Needs more intelligence, Prefuse is a good example. Another good example (IMO) is The Roots, they play all their own instruments, which is big time respect for me, and who could forget the latest release from OutKast. Andre 3000 is about as musically savvy as anyone out there. Additionally, they just have a more intelligent sound than more popular hip-hoppery such as 50 cent and Eminem (even though he is funny as hell, and tends to be more emotionally involved with his music)

edit: as much as I don't want to say anything....I think the poll question is a bit unfair. I think it is already a legitimate art form, whether or not you enjoy listening to hip-hop seems to be another story.

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Points: 26 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2005 at 21:48
After you post your choice (if you should be so inclined), please check out prefuse 73.  I believe that he is taking hip hop to a similar level as progressive rock.
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