Pussy Riot Sentenced To 2 years In Prison

akamaisondufromage wrote: lucas wrote: akamaisondufromage wrote: One relationship between this case and Che Guevara Ts is that one of the Pussy Riot girls was wearing a 'No Pasaran' T Shirt at the trial. It seemed rather odd that she was allowed to do this! (No direct relationship between No Pasaran and Che though, just that they were both political Ts).   If they had done this in Cuba, they would have been jailed for life ! I remember seeing a documentary about Cuba, and there was a punk rock band that had to play in secret by fear of denouncement from neighbours (like in Poland during the state of war, there are citizens in Cuba who watch their neighbours and report to authorities any "suspect" activity). A lot of artists (poets, musicians...) are jailed in Cuba for their anti-authority position. Unfortunately, none of our beloved musicians react towards this repression.   I mean, everyone knows that Russia is a repressive country, we are not born yesterday, so why don't we dare look at other countries that seem repressive to their citizens only.   I'm sure you are right that if they had done this in Cuba they would have got life. Equally in other countries they would have just 'disapeared' ,and just playing music of any type would have got them in this situation. Russia gets the press exactly for the reason Snow Dog states and because of the power Putin wields outside Russia (as well as inside). What influence does Cuba have?   I know that maybe these pop stars could say something about other dictatorships.  However, I think they usually get sl*g.ed off whatever!  Either for not talking about politics or for talking about politics.

Jesus, are you people thick or what? Here's the relation Che has with this whole thing:

1 - retarded people think he was a freedom fighter
2 - said people usually idolize him and have all kind of memorabilia with his face on
3 - wearing a shirt with his face on is considered kewl because his cause was "noble"
4 - he fought against capitalism and its excesses (consumism included)
5 - he was against freedom of expression
6 - he was a racist towards black people (after he returned from his gerrilla time in Africa)
7 - he supported and was supported by totalitarian socialist regimes
8 - people use Che as a toke, a symbol in order to fight oppressive regimes of all sorts

It's a paradox, an oxymoron. I can't believe you guys are actually this oblivious.

CPicard wrote: The T wrote: Pastor Rex Cat wrote: Paul McCartney and Madonna among others in the music world are demanding their release from prison. And now it's Sting joining in as well. http://freepussyriot.org/ Now those three idiots have joined the cause. Ok now it,s when freedom will be well served.  I should google and see if any of them have ever worn a murderer-Che shirt.... I'm not sure to see the relationship between that Pussy Riot case and the Che Guevara fashion... Anyway, if we could focus on the sole Pussy Riot turmoil, maybe things could be a bit clearer for everyone. Oh, and may Bachar El-Assad live long.

 

akamaisondufromage wrote: One relationship between this case and Che Guevara Ts is that one of the Pussy Riot girls was wearing a 'No Pasaran' T Shirt at the trial. It seemed rather odd that she was allowed to do this! (No direct relationship between No Pasaran and Che though, just that they were both political Ts).

If they had done this in Cuba, they would have been jailed for life ! I remember seeing a documentary about Cuba, and there was a punk rock band that had to play in secret by fear of denouncement from neighbours (like in Poland during the state of war, there are citizens in Cuba who watch their neighbours and report to authorities any "suspect" activity). A lot of artists (poets, musicians...) are jailed in Cuba for their anti-authority position. Unfortunately, none of our beloved musicians react towards this repression.

Edited by lucas - August 19 2012 at 04:52

Excessive, excessive... Maybe invading a church and disturbing a mess isn't exactly being polite, but it's rather tame compared to 60/70's Actionnism (google it at your own risks!), even if they claimed to be influenced by this movement.

Oh, by the way, from what I read, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel and Genesis support them.

The T wrote: Pastor Rex Cat wrote: Paul McCartney and Madonna among others in the music world are demanding their release from prison. And now it's Sting joining in as well. http://freepussyriot.org/ Now those three idiots have joined the cause. Ok now it,s when freedom will be well served.  I should google and see if any of them have ever worn a murderer-Che shirt....

I'm not sure to see the relationship between that Pussy Riot case and the Che Guevara fashion...

Anyway, if we could focus on the sole Pussy Riot turmoil, maybe things could be a bit clearer for everyone.

Oh, and may Bachar El-Assad live long.

lucas wrote: Stalin starved people in Ukraine. In consequence, they had to eat their own children to stay alive. From 1917 to 1980, the communist party is responsible for 120 milion deaths.   I hate when people living in "western"countries talk about how  life was good in countries with communist government. My parents left Poland during the Jaruzelski years, mainly because my father was jailed for having given his opinion on the government's politics (yes, freedom of speech was banned).   And I hate even more people who wear T-shirts or other goods bearing the face of the terrorist Che Guevera (a physician who kills people, isn't that inconsistent ?).

Snow Dog wrote: lucas wrote: Snow Dog wrote: In fact USSR was better This is a joke, right ? Stalin starved people in Ukraine. In consequence, they had to eat their own children to stay alive. From 1917 to 1980, the communist party is responsible for 120 milion deaths.   I hate when people living in "western"countries talk about how  life was good in countries with communist government. My parents left Poland during the Jaruzelski years, mainly because my father was jailed for having given his opinion on the government's politics (yes, freedom of speech was banned).   And I hate even more people who wear T-shirts or other goods bearing the face of the terrorist Che Guevera (a physician who kills people, isn't that inconsistent ?). Sorry if my opinion offends you.

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--  and BTW I thought totalitarianism was a method, not a politik

Oh goody. Another thread on the internet where totalitarianism and communism are used interchangeably.  

lucas wrote: Pastor Rex Cat wrote: Paul McCartney and Madonna among others in the music world are demanding their release from prison. And now it's Sting joining in as well. http://freepussyriot.org/ where were they when Bachar el Assad murdered (and continues to murder) his citizens ?

Honestly, I've never heard of Bachar al-Assad until you mentioned him.