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Posted: July 13 2013 at 13:25
dr wu23 wrote:
Why live and not studio ....?
Probably because it's much more impressive to be able to do it consistently and live, than to have the option of taking several takes to get it perfect in the studio.
Well as far as Guitar is concerned I've Never Heard faster shredding done by Herman Li of DragonForce. Not really a prog band, just more speed-metal really....literally! Lol
Drums--Mike Mangini with annihilator. Holy crap man!
King Crimson. They can get pretty crazy fast. I love the speed up process build up on 21st century schizoid man. Wooooooow!
Prostet the hero, the tech-extreme-metal band are pretty fast, so fast that lost me there somewhere when i am trying to find the melody in their music.
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Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:00
Why live and not studio ....?
At any rate, I've seen Mahavishnu with McLaughlin in the old days and in between the slower parts they do some very fast runs and solos. I go for John and the boys.
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Posted: July 13 2013 at 02:15
As far as a whole band playing together, I always thought PFM's live version of "Celebration" on "Cook" was pretty fast. Also I know we're only supposed to list live recordings, but PFM's "Out on the Roundabout" from "Chocolate Kings" does this incredible speed-up section where they end up just flying.
The 2 fastest live prog guitar parts I know of both come from Mr Fripp. The 1st isn't a solo, but the flatpicking quiet middle section of "Fracture" on "Starless and Bible Black" (which of course was a studio album but "Fracture" came from a live recording). I saw Fripp play this at close range during his 1979 Frippertronics tour at a Tower Records...you could tell the guitarists in the audience, their jaws were on the floor. The 2nd fastest guitar part was Fripp's "Satori in Tangier" solo from the 1984 "Live in Japan" video.
Edited by The.Crimson.King - July 13 2013 at 16:16
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Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:56
maani wrote:
Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater. (Your Magma videos are great, though.) There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL). I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins. Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
well, the Magma stuff is definitely very complicated too. take for example the riff in the final section of "De Futura". it does sound easy, but it is very tricky
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Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
No argument there!
John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)
Yes, Petruccci is some virtuoso, DT and many prog metal bands have some fast guitars players. But i don't think we should judge the quality of the music by this value only.
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Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:40
maani wrote:
Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
No argument there!
John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)
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Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:07
Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater. (Your Magma videos are great, though.) There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL). I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins. Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
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