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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 13:25
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Why live and not studio ....?
 


Probably because it's much more impressive to be able to do it consistently and live, than to have the option of taking several takes to get it perfect in the studio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:32
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by Hamlet Transportinae Hamlet Transportinae wrote:

Actually I love the conception of fattest prog band. I would definitely take it more seriously.
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Can we switch the topic to fattest?! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:31
Originally posted by Hamlet Transportinae Hamlet Transportinae wrote:

Actually I love the conception of fattest prog band. I would definitely take it more seriously.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:18
Fastest?? Seems pretty broad here.

Well as far as Guitar is concerned I've Never Heard faster shredding done by Herman Li of DragonForce.
Not really a prog band, just more speed-metal really....literally! Lol

Drums--Mike Mangini with annihilator. Holy crap man!

King Crimson. They can get pretty crazy fast. I love the speed up process build up on 21st century schizoid man.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:14
Prostet the hero, the tech-extreme-metal band are pretty fast, so fast that lost me there somewhere when i am trying to find the melody in their music.Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 12:00
Why live and not studio ....?
 
At any rate, I've seen Mahavishnu with McLaughlin in the old days and in between the slower parts they do some  very fast runs and solos. I go for John and the boys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2013 at 02:15
As far as a whole band playing together, I always thought PFM's live version of "Celebration" on "Cook" was pretty fast.  Also I know we're only supposed to list live recordings, but PFM's "Out on the Roundabout" from "Chocolate Kings" does this incredible speed-up section where they end up just flying.


The 2 fastest live prog guitar parts I know of both come from Mr Fripp.  The 1st isn't a solo, but the flatpicking quiet middle section of "Fracture" on "Starless and Bible Black" (which of course was a studio album but "Fracture" came from a live recording).  I saw Fripp play this at close range during his 1979 Frippertronics tour at a Tower Records...you could tell the guitarists in the audience, their jaws were on the floor.  The 2nd fastest guitar part was Fripp's "Satori in Tangier" solo from the 1984 "Live in Japan" video.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 17:31
Actually I love the conception of fattest prog band. I would definitely take it more seriously.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 16:10
Gentle Giant sometimew pics up some spped while playin live version of Proclamation is breath- taking
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 15:51
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)


Magma's live work is absolutely unreal, even compared to their studio albums.

I misread the title as "fattest" and had thoughts of Chris Squire

Chris Squire and Greg Lake should start a band named "Fat Bass" LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 15:47
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)


Magma's live work is absolutely unreal, even compared to their studio albums.

I misread the title as "fattest" and had thoughts of Chris Squire
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:56
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater.  (Your Magma videos are great, though.)  There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL).  I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins.  Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

well, the Magma stuff is definitely very complicated too. take for example the riff in the final section of "De Futura". it does sound easy, but it is very tricky


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:50
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

No argument there!  

John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)


Yes, Petruccci is some virtuoso, DT and many prog metal bands have some fast guitars players. But i don't think we should judge the quality of the music by this value only.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:40
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

 Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.

No argument there!  

John Goodsall of Brand X is another fret-burner...but I'd have to say that Petrucci is the fastest I've ever seen (I've been playing for over forty years!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 13:07
Re groups live, the two I've seen (either live or on video) who seem to reach the highest speeds on occasion are Deus ex Machina and Dream Theater.  (Your Magma videos are great, though.)  There are some "thrash metal" bands who can attain speeds that are truly breath-taking (or absurd, depending on how you look at it...LOL).  I would say the fastest drummers (overall) I've heard (who are actually playing complicated parts, not just keeping a beat) are Claudio Trotta from Deus ex Machina, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater, Carl Palmer, and the guy from Ruins.  Fastest guitarists would have to include McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Petrucci, and Fripp.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 09:47
Originally posted by Hamlet Transportinae Hamlet Transportinae wrote:

When music becomes sport, art dies. But it is dead long ago anyway. So... Doesn't surprise me to read all this.

did you read my introductory post? I think I made it clear there what I think of playing fast in general


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 09:45
Sorry, The thread title is so interesting that I haven't read your whole post. Ay least2 out of 3 were live...

I absolutely love Magma but I'm more in their studio things )a coincidence, not by choice)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 09:40
Octopus-4, I said "no studio recordings".

anyway, here is my choice:








(since this is a very long track, listen to the passge between the 30 and 40 minute mark)


(another long track, but should be heard in its entirety; it gets really really fast towards the end)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2013 at 08:48
Originally posted by stf stf wrote:

"Less metal, more prog"
I'd like to see that on a t-shirt.
(...worn by me.)
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If you find one, let me know, I'll also buy one.
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